1. 12SECZ

ATI Procharger Tuner Kit, 380cc Injectors, refashed ECU to 9 lbs.
Borla Headers/ RT Cats Borla TD, Crawford Plenum on Intake.

Verdict, runs great at 7 to even 10 lbs, currently setup to keep my A/F and Timing perfect in open and closed loop mode all the way up to 9 lbs, plugs are perfect.

I willl edit this line out later, looking for split second Vortech, Stillen and GReddy owners to chime in with their setups and of course the Aermotive Kits and how they get around the timing issue as well as any other kit out there that is released and ran.

 

Vortech w/8lb pulley, stock internals, custom programming of SplitSecond box (that comes with Vortech kit) was done by my installer. Still need to get non-OEM plugs at some point, but dyno sheet looks really good right now. A/F and boost gauges on order.

When/if I go to a tighter pulley, I would probably go with a combination of one or more of the following: replace stock fuel pump and Vortech-supplied pump with single larger pump, larger injectors, reprogramming of ECU, etc.

--Steve

 

Thanks, so we have two kits running more than 8 lbs on stock internals. This should be very promising over what occured last year. Can you give a brief synopsis of what exactly the split second box does then I will update the thread like Ie, does it retard timing, control A/F and sense boost?

1.12SECZ ATI 9 lbs larger Injectors, reflashed ECU to control more fuel, retard timing and sense boost. Stock Internals.


2. Zimbo Vortech 8 lbs Split second box to control (xxx) stock internals.

I will also add plugs and gap. I have NGK Coppers one range colder at .37

Thanks!

 

Detail of the SS box that is included with the Vortech kit can be found here:

http://www.splitsec.com/products/ftc1/ftc1ds.htm

Oh yeah, I forgot. I also have the Stillen dual exhaust.

--Steve

 

1. 12SecZ ATI Procharger Tuner Kit at 9 lbs
380cc Injectors, refashed ECU. Borla Headers/ RT Cats Borla TD, Crawford Plenum on Intake, stock internals FMIC

Verdict, runs great at 7 to even 10 lbs, currently setup to keep my A/F and Timing perfect in open and closed loop mode all the way up to 9 lbs, plugs are perfect.

2. Zimbo Vortech @ 8 lbs stock internals with IC. Stillen exhaust Split Second FTC1 Fuel/Timing Calibrator in voltage mode driven off of the stock MAF sensor.


Verdict??

 

Verdict = runs great, HP and torque curves are very smooth.

More data: Timing retard increases from an extra 2 degrees up to 6 degrees at 6000 rpm. A/F wavers from 11.5 to 12.2 but plot shows that fuel is richer at 500 rpm increments than in between due to the interval at which SS box can be tweaked.

--Steve

 

ATI "100% Complete" 7lb. kit w/ Aeromotive FMU on totally stock car

Verdict= needs a timing solution, and a better AF solution......detonation at around 6K and up.....but good power, LOL

 

ATI kit only seeing 6 PSI of boost Using J&S safeguard to retard timing. Timing retard settings are .5 degree per PSI + 4 degrees of retard gradually phased in from 5250 - 6250.

Borla dual exhaust

Verdict= Runs great, but need more power. Losing lots of power because of my high elevation and rich A/F ratio.

 

TBA = Greddy TT kit 8psi-9psi TS ECU reflash with 380cc injectors and the greddy e manage for fine tuning. Will have results with dyno by mid Feburary.

 

What do you need the TS reflash for? And why are you going to use 380cc injectors when the kit comes with 440cc?

 

ATI Procharger @ 7psi w/ Aeromotive EFMU and stock injectors. J&S Safeguard retarding timing, 8 degrees at redline. Injen exhaust, headers, no cats.

Verdict: Runs just great, lots of power and torque. Car loves to get abused with this setup, just need to finish up with some fine tuning this week and will post my results then.

 

the 380cc injectors just clip to the factory harness, while the 440's will have to be spliced in. also feel thet the TS ecu reflash will work better on timing then the greddy. It will have no skips or hesitation. also looking to rasing my redline and get rid of the stupid speed limiter that no sports car should have. Its a matter of preference and if TS can get the car to run good with out using the e manage for fine tuning I will delete that too. I am not looking to set records just a clean no wire cutting install. I chomped the living **** out of my eclipse harness and it can become a big mess. I am really waiting for the plug and play ecu's to come out. Never know by the week end I may change my mind. I will start the install on saturday with pics of my base dyno and end dyno. Wish me luck

 

Jesse, I'm sure you checked but I was seeing 5-6 pounds and it was a loose hose behind the compressor on the bottom, no other symptoms, very hard to get to let alone see. I guess yours is elevation?

 

12SECZ
ATI 9 lbs larger Injectors, reflashed ECU to control more fuel, retard timing and sense boost. Stock Internals. Happy.

Zimbo
Vortech @ 8 lbs stock internals with IC. Stillen exhaust Split Second FTC1 Fuel/Timing Calibrator in voltage mode driven off of the stock MAF sensor. Runs great, HP and torque curves are very smooth. Timing retard increases from an extra 2 degrees up to 6 degrees at 6000 rpm. A/F wavers from 11.5 to 12.2 but plot shows that fuel is richer at 500 rpm increments than in between due to the interval at which SS box can be tweaked.

elektrik_juggernaut
ATI "100% Complete" 7lb. kit w/ Aeromotive FMU on totally stock car Verdict= needs a timing solution, and a better AF solution......detonation at around 6K and up.....but good power

jesseenglish
ATI kit only seeing 6 PSI of boost Using J&S safeguard to retard timing. Timing retard settings are .5 degree per PSI + 4 degrees of retard gradually phased in from 5250 - 6250. Borla dual exhaust Verdict= Runs great, but need more power. Losing lots of power because of my high elevation and rich A/F ratio.

spazpilot
Greddy TT kit 8psi-9psi TS ECU reflash with 380cc injectors and the greddy e manage for fine tuning. Will have results with dyno by mid Feburary.

ravaz
ATI Procharger @ 7psi w/ Aeromotive EFMU and stock injectors. J&S Safeguard retarding timing, 8 degrees at redline. Injen exhaust, headers, no cats. Verdict: Runs just great, lots of power and torque. Car loves to get abused with this setup, just need to finish up with some fine tuning this week and will post my results then.

So far boost is not the issue it's timing, also it seems the car likes to breath (open exhaust.)

 

great thread guys very interesting... keep them coming im lovin it!

 

Yeah, that's what I originally figured it was, but after hours and hours of tearing the system apart and checking every hose connection, my only conclusion is that it's the low air density causing low boost pressure readings.

 

Vortech kit, identical to Zimbo's, but with custom HKS cat back exhaust. A/F from 11:1 - 11:8 or so, timing cut all using Splitsecond box. Runs very well and has linear power.

 

Narkotic, your car has--by very definition--the "official" Vortech programming of the SS box for the G35 coupe, right?

Have you done an independent dyno on, say, a DynoJet? I'd put $20 toward that out of sheer curiosity.

--Steve

 

You are correct, my car was at vortech for a few weeks and has the "official" g35 kit on it with special air filter, etc. Their dyno is a load bearing mustang dyno shows low numbers, i'm kind of keeping quiet until I can afford to throw it on a real-world dyno that everyone else seems to be using. My dyno sheets from vortech showed an increase of a little over 100hp. I'm sure they tuned it a little more conservative for obvious reasons. I am very happy the way it runs. My gauges should be in some time this week, after those are installed I plan on doing a full write-up on the forums.

 

12SECZ
ATI 9 lbs larger Injectors, reflashed ECU to control more fuel, retard timing and sense boost. Stock Internals. Happy.

Zimbo
Vortech @ 8 lbs stock internals with IC. Stillen exhaust Split Second FTC1 Fuel/Timing Calibrator in voltage mode driven off of the stock MAF sensor. Runs great, HP and torque curves are very smooth. Timing retard increases from an extra 2 degrees up to 6 degrees at 6000 rpm. A/F wavers from 11.5 to 12.2 but plot shows that fuel is richer at 500 rpm increments than in between due to the interval at which SS box can be tweaked.

elektrik_juggernaut
ATI "100% Complete" 7lb. kit w/ Aeromotive FMU on totally stock car Verdict= needs a timing solution, and a better AF solution......detonation at around 6K and up.....but good power

jesseenglish
ATI kit only seeing 6 PSI of boost Using J&S safeguard to retard timing. Timing retard settings are .5 degree per PSI + 4 degrees of retard gradually phased in from 5250 - 6250. Borla dual exhaust Verdict= Runs great, but need more power. Losing lots of power because of my high elevation and rich A/F ratio.

spazpilot
Greddy TT kit 8psi-9psi TS ECU reflash with 380cc injectors and the greddy e manage for fine tuning. Will have results with dyno by mid Feburary.

ravaz
ATI Procharger @ 7psi w/ Aeromotive EFMU and stock injectors. J&S Safeguard retarding timing, 8 degrees at redline. Injen exhaust, headers, no cats. Verdict: Runs just great, lots of power and torque. Car loves to get abused with this setup, just need to finish up with some fine tuning this week and will post my results then.

narkotic G35 Vortech kitwith custom HKS cat back exhaust. A/F from 11:1 - 11:8 or so, timing corrected via the Splitsecond box. Runs very well and has linear power. Increase of a little over 100hp, full forum write up pending after tweaking.