New (Sema Nov 2013) Vortech V2 Ti-Trim Blower
12-02-2013, 08:32 AM
#21
It's all good…… Just trying to get the Facts Out There!!!!!
I do not work for Vortech, but I did work for (back in the Day) B&M Automotive Racing Products, Mostly on their Roots Suercharger Line, Manual Shifter Line and Auto Shifter Line.
I do not work for Vortech, but I did work for (back in the Day) B&M Automotive Racing Products, Mostly on their Roots Suercharger Line, Manual Shifter Line and Auto Shifter Line.
12-02-2013, 08:34 AM
#22
I am not arguing with you... I swear you work for Vortech the way you are defending it...
The problem is, that it isn't that big of an upgrade for him. I am willing to bet he will make about 600hp at 55k RPM. Then what? He doesn't have enough displacement to make more power on it.
Remember he was spinning his to almost 70k RPM
The problem is, that it isn't that big of an upgrade for him. I am willing to bet he will make about 600hp at 55k RPM. Then what? He doesn't have enough displacement to make more power on it.
Remember he was spinning his to almost 70k RPM
If Colombo is looking for more room to grow, I would look more closely at the YSi. I believe that blower is rated at 1600CFMs. It's about $500-$600 more expensive and about a half-inch to an inch larger in most areas.
Also, a side note, just got word that my Ti supercharger will be arriving Wednesday.
12-02-2013, 09:18 AM
#23
Due to space problems already seen, I think a YSI may be a bit big for a 350Z.
My question is why are Prochargers not used on 350Z's? They are alot more expandable than Vortech it seems.
http://www.procharger.com/models.shtml
There is alot of expansion here and they run at higher RPM's too
My question is why are Prochargers not used on 350Z's? They are alot more expandable than Vortech it seems.
http://www.procharger.com/models.shtml
There is alot of expansion here and they run at higher RPM's too
12-02-2013, 10:09 AM
#24
The YSi Blower is a Great Choice….. especially for a Drag Car if you what 800whp+.
There is no"Space Problem"
All of this stuff is a Custom Installation.
Any Custom Install is going to require some minor modification for Proper Fit.
Procharger makes a top notch blower, but the kit they came out with for the Z and G35 in 2003 did not go over well, I think due to the complex bracketry and belt problems. They do not pursur this market any further, Vortech did.
There is no"Space Problem"
All of this stuff is a Custom Installation.
Any Custom Install is going to require some minor modification for Proper Fit.
Procharger makes a top notch blower, but the kit they came out with for the Z and G35 in 2003 did not go over well, I think due to the complex bracketry and belt problems. They do not pursur this market any further, Vortech did.
Due to space problems already seen, I think a YSI may be a bit big for a 350Z.
My question is why are Prochargers not used on 350Z's? They are alot more expandable than Vortech it seems.
http://www.procharger.com/models.shtml
There is alot of expansion here and they run at higher RPM's too
My question is why are Prochargers not used on 350Z's? They are alot more expandable than Vortech it seems.
http://www.procharger.com/models.shtml
There is alot of expansion here and they run at higher RPM's too
Last edited by OldManZ350; 12-02-2013 at 10:10 AM.
12-02-2013, 10:13 AM
#25
The YSi Blower is a Great Choice….. especially for a Drag Car if you what 800whp+.
There is no"Space Problem"
All of this stuff is a Custom Installation.
Any Custom Install is going to require some minor modification for Proper Fit.
Procharger makes a top notch blower, but the kit they came out with for the Z and G35 in 2003 did not go over well, I think due to the complex bracketry and belt problems. They do not pursur this market any further, Vortech did.
There is no"Space Problem"
All of this stuff is a Custom Installation.
Any Custom Install is going to require some minor modification for Proper Fit.
Procharger makes a top notch blower, but the kit they came out with for the Z and G35 in 2003 did not go over well, I think due to the complex bracketry and belt problems. They do not pursur this market any further, Vortech did.
12-02-2013, 11:26 AM
#26
What is required to switch from a V-3 to a V-2? I would be willing to try this on my Stillen HR Kit. I guess just a pump and oil lines?
My V-3 SCi unit just got shipped in to Vortech for the Si upgrade last week. But that is only a 10-15% increase in CFM. The upgrade is cheap, but labor and a retune will add up. I'd rather swap to the V-2 Ti trim and slow the RPMs down to meet my power goals. Then I can swap pulleys and retune later on when my motor can support the extra HP.
My V-3 SCi unit just got shipped in to Vortech for the Si upgrade last week. But that is only a 10-15% increase in CFM. The upgrade is cheap, but labor and a retune will add up. I'd rather swap to the V-2 Ti trim and slow the RPMs down to meet my power goals. Then I can swap pulleys and retune later on when my motor can support the extra HP.
12-02-2013, 11:32 AM
#27
What is required to switch from a V-3 to a V-2? I would be willing to try this on my Stillen HR Kit. I guess just a pump and oil lines?
My V-3 SCi unit just got shipped in to Vortech for the Si upgrade last week. But that is only a 10-15% increase in CFM. The upgrade is cheap, but labor and a retune will add up. I'd rather swap to the V-2 Ti trim and slow the RPMs down to meet my power goals. Then I can swap pulleys and retune later on when my motor can support the extra HP.
My V-3 SCi unit just got shipped in to Vortech for the Si upgrade last week. But that is only a 10-15% increase in CFM. The upgrade is cheap, but labor and a retune will add up. I'd rather swap to the V-2 Ti trim and slow the RPMs down to meet my power goals. Then I can swap pulleys and retune later on when my motor can support the extra HP.
12-02-2013, 06:05 PM
#30
my goal was never initially to make 600hp. if this blower can make that within its 55k range then awesome. but it will atleast make 550 i would hope safely which will be more then enough for the road racing/autoX that i do....if a year or so down the line i want to see its limits "safely" i will push past that 55k mark. remember how much further i was pushing my blower w the 928m and it still took well over 200 HARD first- 3rd gear pulls and hard autox action before she threw the bearings. but before that i ran the stock sc impeller with the 2.87 to 7200 rpm for over 8 months autox monthly road course every other month with no issues at all. so imagine just slightly pushing that blower... but for now my main concern is decent power RELIABLY so i will not be pushing this blower for quite some time. hopefully within its 55k rpm i can make good power. i still am un sure which pulley i will run with my fluidampr to stay within the limits at 7500 rpm. but once i sell this momentum (potential buyer on the way now) i will order my TI :-)
Last edited by Colombo; 12-02-2013 at 06:06 PM.
12-03-2013, 07:29 AM
#32
Btw my turbo kit sold yesterday and I ordered my Ti blower today, Vortech is going to buy back my blown blower Aswell so the damage wasn't bad at all. Just over 2k once all is said and done.
12-03-2013, 07:51 AM
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12-03-2013, 08:20 AM
#36
alright did the calculations for my setup with the 28/32 stock cogs fluidampr pulley 6.125 and the 3.33 and 3.12 this is at 7400 RPM which is what i was shifting at when it made 608 on the 928m impeller.
3.33 = 56155.56
3.12= 59935.26
from what vortech told me the only difference between the v1 Ti and V2 Ti is noise.
to my understanding the v2 TI it rated at 55k rpm... obviously although this is the HD gearset/bearings i do not plan on spinning this blower at 65k rpm like i did the 928m with std internals. but can it handle it :-X lol
threads, any idea which pulley you plan to try? i am planning on picking up a 3.12 and testing them both on the dyno i think. also what crank pulley are you on and what rpm do you plan to rev 2?
3.33 = 56155.56
3.12= 59935.26
from what vortech told me the only difference between the v1 Ti and V2 Ti is noise.
to my understanding the v2 TI it rated at 55k rpm... obviously although this is the HD gearset/bearings i do not plan on spinning this blower at 65k rpm like i did the 928m with std internals. but can it handle it :-X lol
threads, any idea which pulley you plan to try? i am planning on picking up a 3.12 and testing them both on the dyno i think. also what crank pulley are you on and what rpm do you plan to rev 2?
Last edited by Colombo; 12-03-2013 at 08:22 AM.
12-03-2013, 11:44 AM
#39
Like I said, I'll probably start with the 3.12. With my setup, and that pulley, I'm right at 55K @7000rpms. With the 2.87 it's 59K @7000rpms. Between belt slip, and only being at/around redline for a second or less, I don't see why overspinning it slightly (via the calculations) is a bad thing.
12-03-2013, 02:34 PM
#40
Like I said, I'll probably start with the 3.12. With my setup, and that pulley, I'm right at 55K @7000rpms. With the 2.87 it's 59K @7000rpms. Between belt slip, and only being at/around redline for a second or less, I don't see why overspinning it slightly (via the calculations) is a bad thing.