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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 12:16 PM
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Dam 28k.
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TwinZ
Uh oh somebody's mad. If my turbo's were blown then why the hell would i be making 511 rwhp on a mustang dyno?

Here let me break it down for you.

511 rwhp on a MD (14-15% lower than a DJ) = 600 rwhp
600 rwhp on a DJ (17-20% drivetrain loss) = 700 crank hp.

Get it?

Next, I have a deposit from a guy from Ohio for $28k. If it sells between now and then I return the deposit. I never said I had a $35k offer. If you want to talk, come to Tennessee and we will talk. Otherwise, take your jealous attitude and go find another thread to jack. Have a good one.
551whp at 18psi doesnt seem that great honestly. I made 420 at 8psi on turbos that were failing.

You bought a busted car and did a lot of work to it. We warned you about the turbos and even after you tore everything apart and commented about the crap install you still didnt bother. But hey, if you can sleep at night by duping a buyer then thats on you.

Jealous...hardly. My paint matches

35k offer....https://my350z.com/forum/10126652-post28.html

LOL your the one who started talking crap. You don't own the car/will not own the car, so why do you want to keep on? Yes, i was offered $35k. I'll screen shot the message if you want. But I don't need to prove myself. Have a good day sir.

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BTW, just scrolling through your profile on here, it looks like your life consists of finding posts and making smart *** remarks for no reason other than being the typical internet bad ***. You would be one reason why i'm leaving the G/Z community. People like you make it an awesome place.
You must have not looked too deep then else you would have seen my build and all the tech threads I have written on this forum.

But hey, good job not addressing your lies and crappy paint job. Nice e-thuggery too.

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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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It's a jigsaw paint job. Remember those?
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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also note that the rear bumper dont match...but its the lighting.

Also the front passenger fender is a bit off.........accident history?
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cux350z
551whp at 18psi doesnt seem that great honestly. I made 420 at 8psi on turbos that were failing.

You bought a busted car and did a lot of work to it. We warned you about the turbos and even after you tore everything apart and commented about the crap install you still didnt bother. But hey, if you can sleep at night by duping a buyer then thats on you.

Jealous...hardly. My paint matches

35k offer....https://my350z.com/forum/10126652-post28.html






You must have not looked too deep then else you would have seen my build and all the tech threads I have written on this forum.

But hey, good job not addressing your lies and crappy paint job. Nice e-thuggery too.
Hang on now, you said 551 whp at 18 psi doesn't seem that great. It was 511, not 551. AND I TOLD YOU THE DYNO READS LOW, so now you're contradicting yourself. If you want to come look at the car and find me on thing wrong with it mechanically please do. I'm always open to that. You're cracking me up because you literally have nothing else better to do lol. I still find it funny how you say my dyno numbers aren't realistic because they're too high but now you say my numbers aren't impressive. So which is it?
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cux350z
551whp at 18psi doesnt seem that great honestly. I made 420 at 8psi on turbos that were failing.

You bought a busted car and did a lot of work to it. We warned you about the turbos and even after you tore everything apart and commented about the crap install you still didnt bother. But hey, if you can sleep at night by duping a buyer then thats on you.

Jealous...hardly. My paint matches

35k offer....https://my350z.com/forum/10126652-post28.html






You must have not looked too deep then else you would have seen my build and all the tech threads I have written on this forum.

But hey, good job not addressing your lies and crappy paint job. Nice e-thuggery too.
You must be paranoid, not everyone is out to get you I promise. Let's see that monster of a Z you built
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cux350z
also note that the rear bumper dont match...but its the lighting.

Also the front passenger fender is a bit off.........accident history?
Accident history? Look on ebay and there's a full history report dumb ***. You really only look for things you want to pick at, not the fact that my car has been rebuilt from the ground up and can actually bring money unlike the ones you've "built" or whatever you say.
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TwinZ
Hang on now, you said 551 whp at 18 psi doesn't seem that great. It was 511, not 551. AND I TOLD YOU THE DYNO READS LOW, so now you're contradicting yourself. If you want to come look at the car and find me on thing wrong with it mechanically please do. I'm always open to that. You're cracking me up because you literally have nothing else better to do lol. I still find it funny how you say my dyno numbers aren't realistic because they're too high but now you say my numbers aren't impressive. So which is it?
Wow my bad on the typo. 511whp at 18si is even worse. That's 10psi more than my car for only 89whp....sad.

Did i say your number were not realistic? Youre getting me confused with the other guy but then again...cant expect much from you. Try to keep up...or at least buy a car you understand.


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Accident history? Look on ebay and there's a full history report dumb ***. You really only look for things you want to pick at, not the fact that my car has been rebuilt from the ground up and can actually bring money unlike the ones you've "built" or whatever you say.
Ok. ill go look a the history but even if it is clean, that fender fitment is a joke.

If your car gets 28k mine would get 50k..without lying. You really should check my build.

But again, way to address your lies about all the work being done by you/ccm and your crap paint job, crap fitment and lying about never saying you had a 35k offer.
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 01:40 PM
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rear hatch fitment....either the piece is junk of (ill even help you out here) your upper mount on the gas strut is on upside down.

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Two holes for missing emblem...nice.

Shall i go on?
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Hey TwinZ. Nobody is bashing you about your car just because they don't like it. The paint and power isn't as bad as these guys are making it sound, although 511whp @ 18psi isn't amazing. They're upset that you're selling a car with a troubled history without explicitly describing these issues in your ad. If you had gone further into detail about the issues, how you fixed them, what's left to fix, and just stuck to the facts then everything would be perfect. Leave the opinions of horsepower out of the ad.

We're not hijacking your thread. We're discussing your car and trying to save our 350z community from another unhappy owner that didn't quite get what they thought they were buying.
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 02:20 PM
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Id clean that exhaust residue off the bumper as well. Just a selling tip.
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Just for reference, a stock 2012 Camaro ZL1 rated at only 580 horsepower from the factory makes 518whp on a DynoJet and 503whp on a Mustang Dyno, as proven here.

2012 Camaro ZL1 DynoJet Dyno:


2012 Camaro ZL1 Mustang Dyno:



Also, a stock 2013 GT500 rated at only 662 horsepower from the factory makes 609whp on a DynoJet:
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Thats an impressive torque curve. Would love to hear it
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by the3kgt2
Just for reference, a stock 2012 Camaro ZL1 rated at only 580 horsepower from the factory makes 518whp on a DynoJet and 503whp on a Mustang Dyno, as proven here.

2012 Camaro ZL1 DynoJet Dyno:


2012 Camaro ZL1 Mustang Dyno:



Also, a stock 2013 GT500 rated at only 662 horsepower from the factory makes 609whp on a DynoJet:
Thank you, i'm glad someone understands the differences in dyno's and how they read.
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by the3kgt2
Hey TwinZ. Nobody is bashing you about your car just because they don't like it. The paint and power isn't as bad as these guys are making it sound, although 511whp @ 18psi isn't amazing. They're upset that you're selling a car with a troubled history without explicitly describing these issues in your ad. If you had gone further into detail about the issues, how you fixed them, what's left to fix, and just stuck to the facts then everything would be perfect. Leave the opinions of horsepower out of the ad.

We're not hijacking your thread. We're discussing your car and trying to save our 350z community from another unhappy owner that didn't quite get what they thought they were buying.
I know, but people are saying the number's aren't realistic and that 511 is low but when I saw 600 on a dyno jet, i'm not making an unrealistic number. The dyno my car was on ready very low, and that's the point i'm trying to get across.
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Originally Posted by TwinZ
I know, but people are saying the number's aren't realistic and that 511 is low but when I saw 600 on a dyno jet, i'm not making an unrealistic number. The dyno my car was on ready very low, and that's the point i'm trying to get across.
As I previously noted, the driveline loss of a 2003 350Z 6MT is somewhere around 60hp-70hp (assuming 6500-7500 rpm), based on all of the empirical data I have seen over the years. Your estimation of 100hp losses clearly is not based on any empirical data that I have seen, and is wrong. By inflating your estimation of driveline losses to artificially inflate the hp rating of your motor, you are falsely advertising your vehicle to prospective buyers. Period.

Moreover, there is no way a motor actually putting out 700 hp in a 350Z will only measure 511 whp on a Mustang dyno unless the dyno's calibration is way, way off. If you believe the dyno was that far off, dyno the car again on another dyno and post the dyno chart.
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Originally Posted by TwinZ
Thank you, i'm glad someone understands the differences in dyno's and how they read.
Yes, the Mustang Dyno read 503 whp and the DynoJet read 518 whp. This is a difference of less than 3%. You assumed a difference of 20%. And that was before overinflating driveline losses by nearly 50%.
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Now, any prospective buyer with 1/2 a brain should know to take the car to a dyno to verify whether your claim of "700hp" holds up. Since it apparently does not bother you to grossly overinflate a hp claim that can be so easily checked by a prospective buyer, what other issues exist with the car that you are not sharing? I suspect, the deficiency of real hp vs claimed hp is only the tip of the ice burg...

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Yes, the Mustang Dyno read 503 whp and the DynoJet read 518 whp. This is a difference of less than 3%. You assumed a difference of 20%. And that was before overinflating driveline losses by nearly 50%.
The only thing I know to say, is find me a dyno that you want me to take my car to within a 100 mile radius of zip code 37311. You tell me what you think the car will make and I will post the results. You will be off. My reasoning for saying 700 crank HP is the particular shop my Z was dyno'd at is an average of 14-15% lower than any dyno jet in the area. You do the math. As the other guy mentioned, "511 whp on 18 psi is not impressive" the reason is because the dyno reads super low. I've said it twice now. I'm not false advertising anything, I'm telling you guys what the owner of the shop told me. Call George and talk to him if you feel the need to. Feel free to ask him any questions about my car and he will tell you it's one of, if not the most well built Z in this area. I don't believe in taking short cuts and I don't believe in hiding things about my car to a potential buyer. Now i'm done arguing with what you guy's are seeing over the internet. If you want to come talk to me about my car in person and try to find something to argue about, we can do that. You do not know my car, the shop it was built at, or squat about this dyno. Bring your car to the shop and you will walk out crying because it reads that low. I can't tell you anything else other than to come see for yourself. Thank you for your concern, but if you aren't interested in buying the car then you're wasting your time. And I don't want to hear the excuse of helping potential buyers, I can do that myself. You on the other hand, want to start an argument over something you do not know about. So please stop wasting your time.
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How did you feel after you bought the car for what, 12k, and still found all the issues with it? Imagine how someone is going to feel after paying 28k (yeah right, just like the 35k offer that never happened) and have the same problem. They will want to see a huge dyno number, not just some ricer math. All the body work problems that you wont address and the blatant lie about the paint. Youre just hoping the "right" buyer gets it and knows nothing about cars.

Youll leave this forum and well see this car again with another bummed out user.

You're just a used car salesman/flipper with no morals and only $$. You have been trying to sell this car for a long time and it has changed hands very often in the last few miles of its life.

Good riddance.
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