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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 12:22 PM
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You get your car to Hal and the boys and I'm sure they'll take care of everything. I would never doubt their knowledge. In fact they're my only go to when it comes to anything I'm not sure about.

I might have some launches this weekend I'll add to the original post here...

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You get your car to Hal and the boys and I'm sure they'll take care of everything. I would never doubt their knowledge. In fact they're my only go to when it comes to anything I'm not sure about.

I might have some launches this weekend I'll add to the original post here...

Thanks for all the comments!!!
Getting the car to Kentucky would cost more than the tune it's self by quite some margin... And really not interested in driving that far at all lol.


Really looking forward to see what this car runs! I'd bet that car has single digit ET in it!
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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 06:53 PM
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Where are you located??? If you have a decent towing vehicle you can rent a trailer from U haul for under $300.

As far as running in to single digits, I won't Kno until I get the 8.50 cert, so maybe next season unless I run it out of state which we're currently putting together.
There's no doubt this car as it stands has 9's in it. Our goal is to break in to the 8's. That's a long way away, but it gives us something new to work toward. Especially in a time wen all we knew was getting the car built and tuned. But again I couldn't be happier!!!
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congrats! Looks like you should have ~10mph left in the trap at >900whp. Still feels squirrelly with skinnies up front?

i can idle around .95 lambda on 93 octane @1100rpms. thats around 1.1ms IPW. you just need good idle spark control.


sucks that a basic FBO GTR will run mid 10s. prolly less money involved at the end of the day as well.

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I used to run RE11's till I got the car home, then switched to a set of Mickey Thompson drag radials for my 19" street wheels. I ran those at the track, jus launching at 4_5k no anti lag launch control and got wheel spin of coarse. Eventually got them to hook up but most of my problems were bogging.. Then I ran a 16" set of MT drag radials and found the same results. Then this night I came out with a Hoosier 28x10x16 full slick (16# air pressure) and the anti lag and found this to be the best set up yet!!!
I am probably gonna run at Englishtown next Sunday morning, only worKing on launching and I'll run 1/8 mile so I get a decent time slip for the day.. I'll lower my launch rpm to find the sweet spot but I definitely have a long way to go.

There really is no need to build this much HP unless your going to the strip. It's really useless on the street/ highway due to tires breaking traction. I've left 200'+ marks on the highway in 4th gear at 80+ mph.. That's scary and I don't effff around in traffic...
I'd like to make Z days next year and run that 1/2 mile but up top the car gets squirrelly and it's not a good feeling.
Thanks for sharing the tire information. I have to factor in something that will fit over the brakes as well. Not sure its worth all the trouble.

I have traction control tied to the VDC signal. It only pulls significant timing based on wheel spin if the VDC is on. It will allow you to maximize acceleration safely on the street. There was a 20 mph difference on the 1/2 mile run with VDC on vs off so mine is apparently set fairly aggressively. I plan to fine tune a little bit based on logs from those runs.

The 1/2 mile event was not associated with zdayz (www.wannagofast.com). At 160+ mph my car felt completely stable with RE11s.

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congrats! Looks like you should have ~10mph left in the trap at >900whp. Still feels squirrelly with skinnies up front?

i can idle around .95 lambda on 93 octane @1100rpms. thats around 1.1ms IPW. you just need good idle spark control.


sucks that a basic FBO GTR will run mid 10s. prolly less money involved at the end of the day as well.
I'm running factory 18s up front I think they're 7.5 wide so I Kno that's an issue. Looking to solve that with something I can fit over Brembos like factory spare rims with a 4.5" skinny, but I'd imagine that at 150 mph and a bias ply drag slick what is one to expecT. I also have no front sway bar so that pass was a huge learning curve cause I took it out that morning. Wasn't sure what to expect..


As far as all these factory cars coming out, laying down 10's with minimal adjustments it's jus a dam shame. If I would of known then what I Kno now!!! But hey Watever, I was ***** deep 3_4 years ago!!!

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Thanks for sharing the tire information. I have to factor in something that will fit over the brakes as well. Not sure its worth all the trouble.

I have traction control tied to the VDC signal. It only pulls significant timing based on wheel spin if the VDC is on. It will allow you to maximize acceleration safely on the street. There was a 20 mph difference on the 1/2 mile run with VDC on vs off so mine is apparently set fairly aggressively. I plan to fine tune a little bit based on logs from those runs.

The 1/2 mile event was not associated with zdayz (www.wannagofast.com). At 160+ mph my car felt completely stable with RE11s.
So funny thing, you say traction control!! That pass was not made with me touching the tcs button on the car. Not sure it's even working any longer, after the Haltech standalone?? I do have a an issue tho with what I believe may be a wheel speed sensor. All the lights came on the cluster back in December when I brought the car home ( brake tcs slip vdc). So most would think incorrect tire size, but this was with my 19" Volks that had been on the car for years. I threw on the factory 18" with no change. No matter what as soon as the car rolls the lights turn on. At that point it might be rendering TCS useless. I've yet to check each sensor for an inaccurate reading as they might be the culprit. Either way it's solved the issue of having to turn off traction control every pass!! So good/bad?? With no sway up front I'm not worried about spinning out on twisties as I don't run the car on the streets..

Maybe I'll get arOund to checking the WSS but for now that's not an issue.. Getting that 10 mph outta the car is the goal!!!
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I'm running factory 18s up front I think they're 7.5 wide so I Kno that's an issue. Looking to solve that with something I can fit over Brembos like factory spare rims with a 4.5" skinny, but I'd imagine that at 150 mph and a bias ply drag slick what is one to expecT. I also have no front sway bar so that pass was a huge learning curve cause I took it out that morning. Wasn't sure what to expect..


As far as all these factory cars coming out, laying down 10's with minimal adjustments it's jus a dam shame. If I would of known then what I Kno now!!! But hey Watever, I was ***** deep 3_4 years ago!!!
I'm on the west coast, so again the drive... Not really worth it lol. Might be worth it to fly Hal out, but then again, with 1000's and a supercharger, I don't exactly have an earth shattering car to setup.

As for the new cars, well I remember looking into a few different dailys. One specifically that I wanted was a 2012 5.0. Stock engine (+valve springs), even clutch and people are putting down serious horsepower. Just a pricy turbo kit needed (and fuel/tune ofc). But all in, including cost of car, 40-50 grand can get you a twin turbo 5.0 making about 800-900hp, AND it will get down the track incredibly well. I bought my blower kit from Team Beefcake racing. They ran the TI to 8 seconds in the quarter on a street driven 5.0. Terry said his car was absolutely fine on the street. The more I thought about it, the less I wanted to gamble on my block with a big single. Especially when cars are doing it so much more cheaply, easily, consistently on other platforms. It made more sense to sell the Z and buy a 5.0 all together for big power at that point. But I just like the Z. And when I drove that porsche, yeah it really settled me on lower, more linear power.

Anyway, doesn't change how awesome your setup is. It will be great to see that car put down a new record! Are you going to spray it too at some point?

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I hear you, the options are crazy!!!

As far as spray?? I have thought about this from day one. With launch control now set up, the car leaves with plenty from the line. But I wouldn't rule it out, in fact if that's Wat it's gonna take to get the car in to 8s then I'll probably do it.

There was a member here years ago, I Kno him from Facebook Mo Shakeeb from Bahrain. His car put down jus under what I made, I think 920+/-. I talked to him over the years and was excited to see his car put down an 8 flat. At the time he was running an auto trans forget if it was a glide or th400 but he was spraying that motor wen he made that pass. With that being said, it all depends on getting this chassis cert and then making passes and getting dialed in. If I get more seat time this season, I'll work on it over the winter and push harder come spring and I'll definitely do whatever it takes at that point.
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Is that car still an IRS?

As for nitrous, I feel like it's just an easy way to add some trap. Isn't the limit going to be your 60ft?

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Is that car still an IRS?

As for nitrous, I feel like it's just an easy way to add some trap. Isn't the limit going to be your 60ft?
Last I spoke to him about it was about 2 years ago he was gonna back half the car. I spoke to him like 3 months ago briefly and he said nothing about it. Would be bad *** with a solid rear!!

I agree that nitrous is gonna get me the et I'm looking for. Right now I'm jus gonna work on launches, 60' and 1/8 mile. Focusing on the launch and 60 mainly. There's a lot to get this thing dialed, starting with getting my slips and improving where I can. That 10 sec pass didn't get me a time slip but I was told by one of the techs that it was something like a 1.40-1.30 60'. I find that hard to belIeve due to my slow shift from 1-2. I didn't feel any slip but I'm sure there was plenty. Hopefully Sunday I'll be out at E town and get plenty of footage.
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Last I spoke to him about it was about 2 years ago he was gonna back half the car. I spoke to him like 3 months ago briefly and he said nothing about it. Would be bad *** with a solid rear!!

I agree that nitrous is gonna get me the et I'm looking for. Right now I'm jus gonna work on launches, 60' and 1/8 mile. Focusing on the launch and 60 mainly. There's a lot to get this thing dialed, starting with getting my slips and improving where I can. That 10 sec pass didn't get me a time slip but I was told by one of the techs that it was something like a 1.40-1.30 60'. I find that hard to belIeve due to my slow shift from 1-2. I didn't feel any slip but I'm sure there was plenty. Hopefully Sunday I'll be out at E town and get plenty of footage.
What were you saying? I got distracted by boobies


Oh yeah. No those are some good times man. No sense in adding power yet! Lol, but you seem to be driving it well. Keep it up!

PS Do you know what ever happened to hal's black car? I know he's selling the turbo setup, but did the engine died?
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Can't really speak on Hal's car. I do Kno that many items were for sale but as far as the status and what he plans to do I couldn't say. I will say I don't think he ran that car nearly as much as he'd have liked to. To add to that, at a certain point the fun, enjoyment is taken out of owning a car like that wen it comes to certain NHRA rules. I Kno because I'm going through it all now!!
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Originally Posted by 350zion
Can't really speak on Hal's car. I do Kno that many items were for sale but as far as the status and what he plans to do I couldn't say. I will say I don't think he ran that car nearly as much as he'd have liked to. To add to that, at a certain point the fun, enjoyment is taken out of owning a car like that wen it comes to certain NHRA rules. I Kno because I'm going through it all now!!
I feel you on that. Cage, fuel cell, chute, fire suppression etc etc etc. Ends up costing incredible amounts to have done properly.

I never planned on regularly tracking my car for just that reason. It can cost more the the already expensive go fast bits
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you will need a much bigger turbo to run close to 8's on a 6mt. In the 88+mm range for sure. Prolly 4-500whp more with nitrous for spool definitely.

Look at what the 8sec 6mt supras need. And they have a much more sorted rear suspension but cant fit tall of a tire.

just get a set of 17" weld rts high pad wheels for the front. you are taking big risks running radial/ bias ply, esp at that trap.

good luck if thats your goal. As soon as you put the cage in, it becomes a deathtrap on the street.
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you will need a much bigger turbo to run close to 8's on a 6mt. In the 88+mm range for sure. Prolly 4-500whp more with nitrous for spool definitely.

Look at what the 8sec 6mt supras need. And they have a much more sorted rear suspension but cant fit tall of a tire.

just get a set of 17" weld rts high pad wheels for the front. you are taking big risks running radial/ bias ply, esp at that trap.

good luck if thats your goal. As soon as you put the cage in, it becomes a deathtrap on the street.
Don't really Kno where I'll be at with the current setup, nitrous would only be a thought to get the et I'm looking for. That Mo Shakeeb car is on twins, made less power than mine, was on an auto and has at least 1 kit on it and ran an 8s??? I may be missing some facts, but the car still made an 8 second pass...
So it's worth reaching for, but I don't think I'm gonna do anything further than NO with this car.. I'm good jus making passes!!

Thanks for the info on the wheels I had though about something like that. And I also Kno the inherent dangers of running bias ply/radials and I'm in total agreement with you on that..

As far as street, I don't drive the car in the street anymore. I have no interest in doing so and no need.. The clutch alone is not street friendly, even with the RJM fulcrum adjustment kit. Eventually the car will be gutted and caged, and I'll keep enjoying my weekends at the strip..
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Originally Posted by 350zion
Don't really Kno where I'll be at with the current setup, nitrous would only be a thought to get the et I'm looking for. That Mo Shakeeb car is on twins, made less power than mine, was on an auto and has at least 1 kit on it and ran an 8s??? I may be missing some facts, but the car still made an 8 second pass...
So it's worth reaching for, but I don't think I'm gonna do anything further than NO with this car.. I'm good jus making passes!!

Thanks for the info on the wheels I had though about something like that. And I also Kno the inherent dangers of running bias ply/radials and I'm in total agreement with you on that..

As far as street, I don't drive the car in the street anymore. I have no interest in doing so and no need.. The clutch alone is not street friendly, even with the RJM fulcrum adjustment kit. Eventually the car will be gutted and caged, and I'll keep enjoying my weekends at the strip..

That sucks you don't drive it on the street. Unless I had a tube chassis car, I'd always want to be able to drive a car on the street.


Well automatic will help a lot with et. Auto cars can be dialed in so much better than manual... You can launch harder, more consistently, better tire loading etc and then down the track because you can set up computers to handle everything. Autos will always be quicker on big power.

SP put down 1200whp+ and they were out ET'd by Hal... So that's something to think about. Do you have some sort of traction control setup on the car?
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I've had my Z for 10 years, it's spent a lot of the time in shops or garaged either with me working on it or winter storage. I'm jus not in to driving it on the street anymore. I have been on road trips wen it was first built and it was fun, but now I'm more reserved, I have other vehicles to drive. Every now and then I get the itch to take it out, but swapping wheel sets is a task so I'd rather not!!! I enjoy sill enough on the track, I'm addicted to the 1/4 mile..

I don't have traction control on the car, nor did I feel any wheel slip on that run, granted upon launch I'm sure there was. There's boost by gear, which can be set up on the Haltech to assist in any over powering issues I may have but again only time and numerous passes will tell. Right now there's nothing wrong with the car, or how it's running, hooking up trapping!!! So no need to worry at this point on needing anything extra.

And good comment about the SP car and Hal's car. That's exactly what kind of comparisons I'm talking about. With that kind of power I'm sure they had tons of wheel spin on that pass but none the less they got it done. Hal ran a better ET with less power!! So it's about hooking up, no matter what size Turbo I run if the tires don't hook, it's useless!!!

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I've had my Z for 10 years, it's spent a lot of the time in shops or garaged either with me working on it or winter storage. I'm jus not in to driving it on the street anymore. I have been on road trips wen it was first built and it was fun, but now I'm more reserved, I have other vehicles to drive. Every now and then I get the itch to take it out, but swapping wheel sets is a task so I'd rather not!!! I enjoy sill enough on the track, I'm addicted to the 1/4 mile..

I don't have traction control on the car, nor did I feel any wheel slip on that run, granted upon launch I'm sure there was. There's boost by gear, which can be set up on the Haltech to assist in any over powering issues I may have but again only time and numerous passes will tell. Right now there's nothing wrong with the car, or how it's running, hooking up trapping!!! So no need to worry at this point on needing anything extra.

And good comment about the SP car and Hal's car. That's exactly what kind of comparisons I'm talking about. With that kind of power I'm sure they had tons of wheel spin on that pass but none the less they got it done. Hal ran a better ET with less power!! So it's about hooking up, no matter what size Turbo I run if the tires don't hook, it's useless!!!
Hal says there's no such thing as too much power

No I get you wouldn't want to put unnecessary miles on the car. My Z has been in the family since 2004, I remember when it came off the lot. But I mean going down to the local meet and doing a little shock and awe is nice. Especially if you can make some money out of it. I wanted to shoot for 9's with my 7175 setup, but I'm quite content with having a ~600whp car for the canyons. I just can't imagine not going and blasting around the streets in a Z, makes me sad lol.
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