CK_32

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Or super charger... Idk lets talk about it...


So my track/weekend warrior Z is almost road worthy. Got her back up and running and now am digging a little deeper and starting the mod process to see where I even want to go with it.


Before someone comes in, don't post use the search. Im not looking for facts, Im looking for discussion and input on what WE all think I should go.


Anyways my first idea Im thinking is possibly FI my DE Z. MAYBE.. But what do you guys think is a good size turbo our DE engines? My main goal is to have one with a modest boost but not melt the tires off and send me into outer space when the boost kicks in. But be able to have a little fun on the strip, track day and high way say if someone wants to have a little fun


Im thinking 350-400 HP.. Range. But honestly a smooth power pulse so I wont be handicapped when I do auto x with it.


So what do you guys think are some good kits? I don't want a precision $20k pro race kit that's the best of the best. But a realistic weekend car set up that can be done reasonably and modestly. But still be fun. Ive already looked at FI's kits, ebay (last resort) and Garrett.. But FI seems to only make 37HR kits..

CK_32

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Also what do you guys feel about mustang GT 5 spokes on these Z's?


Ive got a set of 18x9 GT wheels from my old project stang and found out the lug is the same.


Kind of tempted to try them on... My only worry is I doubt they will fit in the already tight wheel well space. Or if it will even look decent lol

turboed350z

No on the mustang wheels. As far as turbo, its a load question and its all personal opinion. Actually, youre not even asking much of an educated question.

350-400 hp any fi will get you that. As far as the how much and whatever. Ill be honest, a cheap use kit is 5k. So the whole project is gonna run you aroun 10k.

Have members done it for less? Sure but they also use ebay parts that i would advice against.

Ive ran both the 6262 and garret gt35r and i like the gt36r more. The boost kicks in more violent. While the 6262 is smoother. Not exactly that noticeable to most.

CK_32

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Yea I was checking out the GTX series but I wasn't sure what size was good for the Z. Cause most of my buddies who run turbo set ups are all on 4 cyl cars. s2k, miata, s13's STI's ect ect..

So like I said Im kind of stuck at square one what size would out DE's spool well enough the lag isn't till tomorrow, and but also not under powered and wasting the time to even put the work in for s turbo.

And yea I know turbo design and Kit design also dictate the spool rate and other things of the whole process. Like I said im looking for discussion to get a general idea where I should head with this project. He'll maybe even some guys talk me out of going FI.

And I don't mind $5k rsnge. But if I can piece and used SOME ebay parts that are less of a gamble and like most of my buddies run the important things quality or second hand im fine with that. I'm just not buying the top of the line $10k kits I keep running into. Like I said its a fun weekend car. I'm not in need of making 1320's next best video feature or winning any best thread awards. Just get my power on a reasonable but proper budget.

Do some of the set up/simple bolt ons my self but leave the tuning and real hard stuff to the shops. Again this is my project car so I wanna be as hands on as possible too. Why bother if im going to have someone else build it all for me. No fun in that.

turboed350z

the 6262 is around 1k for the turbo itself. wastegate is another 250. a blow off valve is another 300. clutch can be between 500-2000 depending on what you get. injectors are another 400. fuel pump is another 100. then you have the piping if you dont buy a kit. and an intercooler is another 300+. then you need guages to monitor the whole set up. and this is the absolute cheapest hack job i can think of.

buy a use kit from a member and go from there. honestly 350z arent cheap to built. be prepare to spend over 10k if you want to see 400whp on pavement

CK_32

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I thought 350's stock injectors were sufficient enough to feed a modest turbo set up?

Conway_160

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stock injectors will max out around 300whp. they are only 290CC injectors.

iideadeyeii

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AMR500 Supercharger. /end thread

CK_32

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What about it?

I'm kind of weary of a $130 charger lol


Oh and does anyone know what the i boot threaded tool in the Jack stand tool kit is?? I found it and have no clue WTF it could be used for.

tonyzS/C03

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So as a few others have stated, you can make 350-400 on just about any FI kit with the proper supporting mods, i.e. injectors, and tune.

As far as turbo's go, theres all kinds of options. If you only plan on running modest boost, PTE6262 isn't a bad choice, personal opinion is that its bigger than what you really need, but if you go that route you have room to grow. The GT/GTX snails are great as well, I run twin GTX2867's and love em. They come on smooth and fast all the way up to 20psi. I think that a GT35 series turbo is pretty appropriate for a single set up, esp for a modest set-up that would be reliable in the long run.

When it comes to single turbo kits; theres all kinds, SOHO, if you can find one Momentum, BP, and a few others.

Superchargers, again several options, Vortech is my kit of choice since it was the one that I had. Makes good power, real smooth powerband, and pretty decent price wise. the older V2 kits can be gotten for pretty cheap, the new V3 kits a little more... really up to you what you want to do. S/C are easier to install, and come with less parts to install... just my .02 for what its worth...

CK_32

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Yea I feel the same the 6262 is a tad bigger and more $$ than what I think my ideal goal requires.

But I'm really appreciating the in debth input. I'll look into the GTX35's a bit. Honestly I don't need more than 500... Like ever. 450 is mad as high as I go but like I said 350 WHP is plenty for right now. Especially on a DE. Cause I'm not made of $$, not looking to die or set new land speed records anytime soon.

Just make this thing as peppy and fun as possible.

Also looking into changing to a smaller dif ratio. Get a little pick up that way at least whole im NA. But that's $1,000 or so that could easily be out towards a FI set up.

black93supra

You may check out this thread... looks like a full kit for a little over 5K


https://my350z.com/forum/engine/5894...group-buy.html

rcdash

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^ this. BP is the way to go. If you cannot afford, get a nice NOS kit and call it a day. You always run a risk of ruining a motor going FI, stock or built, SC, turbo, NOS; doesn't matter - just too many variables.

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Since Tony brought it up, the more general topic of the overall best turbo for a twin turbo set up on a 3.5L motor, I agree is the GTX2867. Just outstanding. I've heard EFR spool sooner given lighter weight turbine wheels but they take up so much space!

tonyzS/C03

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Resmarted

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I sent OP a PM.

IMHO Vortech is the best bang for buck and a great choice for the vq35.

I have the vortech TI, which works with the stock vortech piping (with a little massaging), and has been proven to high 500whp low 600whp. That's a good number for the eagle rods and is super easy to install. Not to mention, comes with a CARB number on the blower. The way boost comes in is linear. The hardest thing to deal with is belt slip, but there are several solutions out there for that.

Juztin

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If your looking at twin's... I'd vote getting a used (or new) Greddy TT 20G kit for the DE. Large turbo's, the spool isn't terrible on them, and it makes gobs of power. The 18G kit is good as well, but I've had both and I didn't feel a real difference in spool from the butt dyno.

20G is good if you want to go for future growth potential, 18G if you never intend to go above low 6's, but like I said, having run both I'd just go 20G and have the pillow room.

Resmarted

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Or you can always get whatever you want, and add nitrous later. Because a 50-100 shot would be pretty easy to setup with a haltech, and you can easily get some more injector to make room for the extra power. I would reccomend that since you're in california. Go with a carb legal vortech, and rig in some nitrous for when you need it.

On a smaller TT car it would keep the low end of the smaller turbo's to boot.