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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 10:58 AM
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Angry Ethanol Content? E85 Falling to E54?

So, within the last month the state’s (Arizona) passed some legislation that in part lowers the ethanol content from E85 to E54. Many local people have already chimed in stating that ethanol content levels have already dropped to 50-60%...

I’ve heard a couple of opinions on what type of impact this’ll have on performance, some people said little impact, and others have said we should see a 25-40whp drop in power. I’m expecting the latter, especially since I’m pretty much maxing out my single GT35R.

Anyone else seeing similar drops in ethanol content in their locality? I’m curious what this is going to mean when I get my car back on the dyno now…
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 03:07 PM
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I'm interested as to why some folks predict lower power. Ethanol has a higher octane rating compared to gasoline, but a lower energy content.
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 03:26 PM
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The octane rating between E85 and E50 will be very noticeable so you have to pull timing to prevent knock therefore less power.
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 03:39 PM
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Might as well go back to 91
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 03:47 PM
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That sucks
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 06:37 PM
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Its because the representative are tires of all the evo killing eveeyone out here.

Haha but on a serious, RIP to all the evo and sti guys. I know e85 is a HUGE dependency for cheap power with them.
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 10:30 AM
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i bet you still hit MBT with 50% ethanol
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 01:42 PM
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So, this seems like to the place to ask. Do you think rc750s and a 255 pump at 51psi is enough fuel for a procharger on E50?
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 06:53 PM
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One of my customers just got his VHR tuned on E70. Doesn't look like it is a hinderence to power:

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ac&oe=587BA943

686whp, 531ft/tq at 14.8psi. This is a 6266 T4 1.15 a/r Precision turbo, stock VHR engine.

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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 08:35 PM
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I only get E70 out here in NM, and make solid power 660 corrected running rich for E85 (11:1), no issues here with e70 content thus far.
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Conway_160
So, this seems like to the place to ask. Do you think rc750s and a 255 pump at 51psi is enough fuel for a procharger on E50?
I think it depends on the size of the pro charger. Might run out of pump.
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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Resmarted
I think it depends on the size of the pro charger. Might run out of pump.
C2 42/38 pulleys 14-15psi???
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