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Comparing the different vortech blowers.

Old 01-16-2017, 03:17 PM
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Default Comparing the different vortech blowers.

Provided that all the other parts are the same. what is the difference in boost levels for the SCI, SI, 928, and the TI?

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IF i made 13.5lb of boost with a sci, much would i make with a SI and so forth, provided all the other variables are the same?
Old 01-16-2017, 06:44 PM
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It not Boost that Matters, it's CFM

Everthing is listed on the Vortech Website.

The 928 is just slightly above the Si @ 1200CFM
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Old 01-17-2017, 10:44 AM
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CFM is a better way of measuring but with our platforms, under the same conditions, there is about a 2psi increase going from a SCi to a Si. The Ti is kinda in a different category because it not only flows more air but can be spun faster due to the HD design that allows for better bearings. As for the 928, I really don't have much information other than what the manufacture puts on his website.
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Thanks Tim and Logical:

I know the CFM numbers, but i was told by a few that i would see more boost from the SI upgrade. obviously, the CFM will be more with the larger blower, so that means that it will make more hp per the same level of boost? I was also told that I would see boost sooner, any truth to that?

I made 13 psi and 440whp on the sci with a fluidampr, 2.87 and 32 jackshaft pulley.

Only upgrades i made with the SI was 34 tooth jackshaft, and 7200rpm cutoff. We shall see what i make. Just trying to break 500. lol
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You will see a nice gain by going to the 34 tooth and 7200rpm
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Originally Posted by bignmz04
...Just trying to break 500. lol
Doo it!
Old 01-19-2017, 09:08 PM
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Si to Ti @17psi. 550hp vs 580hp. Nothing else changed except for tune.
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Originally Posted by meanz
Si to Ti @17psi. 550hp vs 580hp. Nothing else changed except for tune.
Interesting, I thought the power jump from the Si to Ti would be more significant. Were you using the same pulley setup on both blowers?
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Everything else was the same. Same dyno and tuner. 30hp gain on same psi.
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I guess the 17 psi came much sooner with the TI?
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Just from switching the sci to si and putting on the 34 tooth, I made right under 540whp and 495lb of torque at 17 psi. this is using the same tune as the sci...i am sure i could get more with a better tune.
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Originally Posted by bignmz04
Just from switching the sci to si and putting on the 34 tooth, I made right under 540whp and 495lb of torque at 17 psi. this is using the same tune as the sci...i am sure i could get more with a better tune.
Mind Sharing the dyno sheet and your mod list with your Si upgrade? That's some pretty good gains even before fine tuning. I only plan on 13.5psi now with the 928 till I get a fuel return so by your numbers I should be at about 505-510whp with meth.

EDIT: Found a previous thread where you stated your mods. Disregard.
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...l#post10813239

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Originally Posted by bignmz04
Just from switching the sci to si and putting on the 34 tooth, I made right under 540whp and 495lb of torque at 17 psi. this is using the same tune as the sci...i am sure i could get more with a better tune.
That's awesome torque for our Vortech's. I wouldn't mind seeing a dyno sheet. Seems kinda crazy to use the same tune.

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Originally Posted by meanz
Si to Ti @17psi. 550hp vs 580hp. Nothing else changed except for tune.
I have to say I was really considering upgrading to a Ti but after seeing this, I'm kind of disappointed. I would of expected more. I may just keep my SCi. Thanks for sharing.

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Originally Posted by Logiqal
That's awesome torque for our Vortech's. I wouldn't mind seeing a dyno sheet. Seems kinda crazy to use the same tune.
That was just to see. We tuned it after.
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Originally Posted by BluestreamDE
Mind Sharing the dyno sheet and your mod list with your Si upgrade? That's some pretty good gains even before fine tuning. I only plan on 13.5psi now with the 928 till I get a fuel return so by your numbers I should be at about 505-510whp with meth.

EDIT: Found a previous thread where you stated your mods. Disregard.
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...l#post10813239
New updates include ppe headers, and full custom true dual exhaust.
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Nice numbers with E85!

Man that's a sharp dive in power after 5700rpm on that run.
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Originally Posted by BluestreamDE
Nice numbers with E85!

Man that's a sharp dive in power after 5700rpm on that run.
The blower maxed out, and i am on stock cams.

I have a buddy who did the same pulley setup (2.87, fludiampr, 34 tooth cog) and his dyno is very similar.

the dyno after tuning is much better and puts out more whp...torque stayed the same.
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I don't think the blower is maxed out to cause that drop off in power.

Can you Post up your Boost Log of the same Dyno?

I bet you have Belt slip.


Originally Posted by bignmz04
The blower maxed out, and i am on stock cams.

I have a buddy who did the same pulley setup (2.87, fludiampr, 34 tooth cog) and his dyno is very similar.

the dyno after tuning is much better and puts out more whp...torque stayed the same.
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Really nice numbers. Yeah, seems like your losing boost somewhere. The graph should pretty much be linear all the way to redline. You may be able to get even more peak HP!

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