$14,060 Installed Greddy & Gages
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Originally posted by PoWeRtRiP
one thing i wanted to point out is just because you pay more for an install to get more safety features does not inherently make it more reliable. i do not agree with the assumption that you pay more for quality work, personally the only work i trust 100% is the work i do myself. if i get a tt kit i will install it myself then let someone else tune it. some of these extras that shops add on are unnecessary it is up to you to decide what you need to run with. i am still waiting to determine whether a turbo kit is even reliable on these motors, plz keep in mind that it is much too early to say that they can handle boost as most have only had tt kits for <10k miles most <5k. it is likely we will see lots of blown head gaskets, and definitely some other issues which will point out the weak spots in the drivetrain.
one thing i wanted to point out is just because you pay more for an install to get more safety features does not inherently make it more reliable. i do not agree with the assumption that you pay more for quality work, personally the only work i trust 100% is the work i do myself. if i get a tt kit i will install it myself then let someone else tune it. some of these extras that shops add on are unnecessary it is up to you to decide what you need to run with. i am still waiting to determine whether a turbo kit is even reliable on these motors, plz keep in mind that it is much too early to say that they can handle boost as most have only had tt kits for <10k miles most <5k. it is likely we will see lots of blown head gaskets, and definitely some other issues which will point out the weak spots in the drivetrain.
in this 14k install quote there is two em/turbo controllers and a complete revamp of the stock fuel system to address these issues..
I make no claims to the reliability of the stock motor on 9-10 psi of boost just the proper tuning at 9-or 10psi.
its one thing for the motor to fail due to improper tuning and another thing for the motor to fail due only to weakness of the internal engine componets..
What i mean by safer/more reliable is that it looks to me that every blown moter on forced induction has blown due to lean conditions/detonation because the tuning couldnt provide a proper A/f ratio/timing retard due to the limitations of stock fuel system and or the em controller.
If this system provides perfect tuning at any boost level and the motor fails this will not be the fault of their system it will just be that the motor can not handle it , this is what i ment.
I dont know about the longevity of properly tuned turbo systems on our vq block either but like i said i havent seen a blown motor due to anything other than lack of proper tuning.
well their was the guy that ran a 375hp shot of nos and blew the motor but that really doesnt apply here or suprise anyone anyway!
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Re: Re: Re: $14,060 Installed Greddy & Gages
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Labors are cheap now a day huh....
Labors are cheap now a day huh....
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Originally posted by Rayden2001
=Just for a basic greddy install with fmic,those were the prices given to me. From many shops, not just one. If you want a list of shops that gave me these prices pm me, instead of the smart reply. THIS IS JUST INSTALLING WHAT ALL COMES WITH THE GREDDY KIT! Not adding all the other gizmos that should of came with the kit.
=Just for a basic greddy install with fmic,those were the prices given to me. From many shops, not just one. If you want a list of shops that gave me these prices pm me, instead of the smart reply. THIS IS JUST INSTALLING WHAT ALL COMES WITH THE GREDDY KIT! Not adding all the other gizmos that should of came with the kit.
As far as getting what you pay for, I would be affraid of a shop that charged that much because they either don't know what they are doing or are knowingly ripping you off. I went with Z1 Motorsports because they did a great job on my Z32, built block and PE 1420 turbos pushing over 500rwhp and safely tuned at 11.5 A/F.
I just hope people don't assume if they pay that much they will get that much better work, it just doesnt always work that way.
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yah so how reliable is the greddy TT kit for an everyday driver, how could the oem clutch hold up on that kind of power..... you would have to upgrade which means you gotta deal with aggressive engagement and other nonsense!!!! or am i wrong, how could stock internals hold up to 5psi , and for how long? so what exactly do i need for a safe reliable TT Z? sorry not to steal the show but it seems like everyone knows what there talkin about in here so i though i would ask.......
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Change these items
Flywheel, Clutch, Pistons, SparkPlugs, Exhaust, Suspension, the Hood and upgrade to a big brake kit. I dont think i missed anything. But If you got the dough buy a civic lol.
Flywheel, Clutch, Pistons, SparkPlugs, Exhaust, Suspension, the Hood and upgrade to a big brake kit. I dont think i missed anything. But If you got the dough buy a civic lol.
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I was going to suggest Z1 Motorsports before I read the last post, he's probably already got it installed too.
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Originally posted by cloudy
That price is ****n crazy, the MOST you should be paying for that is, like $8,000.
You can buy greddy kits w/ fmic for 5600 at avalonracing.net
and the install should not take 40hours.. unless their playn grabass while doing it.
That price is ****n crazy, the MOST you should be paying for that is, like $8,000.
You can buy greddy kits w/ fmic for 5600 at avalonracing.net
and the install should not take 40hours.. unless their playn grabass while doing it.
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Installations quotes...
I was just wondering if you can give me some quotes on installation prices i have all the parts i just need someone to install it and just want to know how much it will cost. alright here's the parts list:
*turbonetics single turbo kit w/intercooler
*greddy profec e-01 boost controller
*Defi d-series( not the bf-link one that needs another module for it) E.G.T/aif fuel ration/boost (already has a autometer triple gauge pod mount for it
*finally tomei cams
also a seperate quote to install forged piston, rods, and sleeves.....much appreciated....
*turbonetics single turbo kit w/intercooler
*greddy profec e-01 boost controller
*Defi d-series( not the bf-link one that needs another module for it) E.G.T/aif fuel ration/boost (already has a autometer triple gauge pod mount for it
*finally tomei cams
also a seperate quote to install forged piston, rods, and sleeves.....much appreciated....
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Re: Installations quotes...
Originally posted by MyFaiRLaDy
I was just wondering if you can give me some quotes on installation prices i have all the parts i just need someone to install it and just want to know how much it will cost. alright here's the parts list:
*turbonetics single turbo kit w/intercooler
*greddy profec e-01 boost controller
*Defi d-series( not the bf-link one that needs another module for it) E.G.T/aif fuel ration/boost (already has a autometer triple gauge pod mount for it
*finally tomei cams
also a seperate quote to install forged piston, rods, and sleeves.....much appreciated....
I was just wondering if you can give me some quotes on installation prices i have all the parts i just need someone to install it and just want to know how much it will cost. alright here's the parts list:
*turbonetics single turbo kit w/intercooler
*greddy profec e-01 boost controller
*Defi d-series( not the bf-link one that needs another module for it) E.G.T/aif fuel ration/boost (already has a autometer triple gauge pod mount for it
*finally tomei cams
also a seperate quote to install forged piston, rods, and sleeves.....much appreciated....