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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by DanF
Nice looking kit.

Where does the filter mount?
Is it accessible without removing the super charger or intercooler?
Does the front bumper need to be removed for install?
With the special oil and external oil cooler, it sounds like tapping the oil pan is NOT required. Is this the case?
Knowing that an owner is looking for more power when spending thousands of dollars on a super charger, why would HKS under-rate their power numbers? That seems like a strange way to market.
You can see the filter on the picture, its very small it mounts almost directly by "stock" placement. hehe, I really wouldn't worry about removing the front bumper as it only takes like 15min at the most to do it, thats the least of anybody's worries. I talked to HKS you don't need to tap the oil pan this has its own oil that the Supercharger runs off, which makes it very neat.

I don't mean to flame you but that is not a strange way of marketing. Perhaps you don't know the history of HKS and other company's like BLITZ who's quality and wormanship are of the upmost outstanding compared to lots of companies out there, I can name a few but HKS is on the top. Just look at their work? There are 2 types of people

1.People that modify their car to go extremelly fast spending thousands of dollars even on motor build up to handle the power.

2.Than you have the people that want to keep the stock format and still have that extra power and RELIABILITY without having problems.

HKS targets both types of market, but in this case HKS is marketing their kit for the #2. I talked to the reps at IAS and they told me that they could have got more power but the reliability on the car will go down. Their are company's out there that push the envelope on the car and its really in the yellow zone, I am confident to say that HKS your still in the green as far as working parts. Your paying for PEACE OF MIND. Many company's tend to do this for example those who have been in this motorsports business have heard of companies like MUGEN, SPOON SPORTS, those company's have products that are RIDICULOUS! in price and compared to other parts out there they tend to make the less power but your getting the upmost quality compared to all and reliability. Because anybody know's someone that wants ALL OUT POWER! will probably get a CUSTOM kit turbo charge the car build the motor etc... Take Greddy for example, IMO they rushed that kit... ITS a nice kit very welll done but they HALF AS$ED a lot of stuff. Most people that have the GREDDY TT kit and did the install themselfs will agree with me. But some companies like to rush out products to gain market instead of doing R&D to make sure the product is 100% flawless... I had heard HKS was working on this kit way before GREDDY was doing their TT... Why 1 year later? HOMEWORK GUYS... LOok at Kinetix, and I hate to bring them up but you can see the threads FILLED with complaints... Lack of homework=PROBLEMS... YOU CANT GO WRONG WITH HKS... AND NO I DON'T WORK THERE I WISH I DID

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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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HMMM self contained with an oil cooler....me likey. The more I wait the more I'm glad I did with all these available options.
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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Wicked4u2c knows whats up.
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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I assume that the SC Controller addresses timing issues?
do you know anymore details of the controller?
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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i have a couple of questions, lets say i have a penulm, headers, straight pipes, and a full cat-back system, i am assuming it will raise the hp amount to more than 80 , now will this put more stress on the engine, or will it still be in the green zone, hks intended?

the other one is the TS reflash, is the system designed to play on the ecu from the factory? or something like a higher rev limite might bring some unknowns in the equation? and if it does bring some unknowns in the equation can i tune it out or do i even have the option to tune it like the vortech unit or the greddy unit, or is this unit only plug and and no play?

i really love this kit since it's so stealth, noise wise and visually too, no nead for cut outs or after market bumpers, and hks quality is top notch, i'll be keeping a closer look on this kit than any other kit, well maybe the aps kit too since retail is very close on both systems....
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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I was kinda curious to your posting below. How low of a price can you offer for the HKS Supercharger kit? Thanks

"I am hoping to get to install one, but we will see. They are limited to one per dealer right now and are expected to be sold out by the end of the day. It is really limited right now and hour ago when I talked to them they were half sold out already... The day is still young.

I would order one for stock, but I already have a Greddy TT in stock that has been here for ages that I cant sell, and I dont want to invest more of my companies money into something else super expensive that will likely stand on the shelf for a long long time.

If you are seriously considering one, I cannot do it for $5000 even, but I can get you close enough that you might be surprised. Let me know. "
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 11:13 PM
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hm I second that question how close to $5K can you get the price to? PM me with your best price.
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 01:24 AM
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Did HKS say anything about max boost levels with this blower? How much CFM? ect...
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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DOh. $7250 for 80whp. Quality or not, that price seems pretty inflated.

All in all, it's probably a perfect kit. Too much HP even with good tires, traction would be a problem. I don't think a SC or TT kit needs a million hp just tp be good. HKS probably got it right. However, $7250 bums me out. I was very interested in this kit.
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by phile
DOh. $7250 for 80whp. Quality or not, that price seems pretty inflated.

All in all, it's probably a perfect kit. Too much HP even with good tires, traction would be a problem. I don't think a SC or TT kit needs a million hp just tp be good. HKS probably got it right. However, $7250 bums me out. I was very interested in this kit.

That's retail sir... The kit will sell for low 5K Which is a very reasonable price. Just like the Greddy kit for the 350z retails for like 8K with intercooler? And sells for mid 5K.. I knew people who will be selling this kit for 5K or less... Im thinking of getting it...
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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I dont think that anyone is going to be selling this kit for $5000 or below. That is less than dealer cost. Your are better off hoping to get under $6000.
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by phunk
I dont think that anyone is going to be selling this kit for $5000 or below. That is less than dealer cost. Your are better off hoping to get under $6000.
Hopefully I hit the jackpot. Right now i'm broke :P
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by phunk
I dont think that anyone is going to be selling this kit for $5000 or below. That is less than dealer cost. Your are better off hoping to get under $6000.

Well, im not sure if you are direct with HKS? And im not sure your discount on the supercharger but I know a company and I won't disclose their info because I don't want to throw them under the bus but they have placed their P.O. and are getting the kits under 5K. So I guess we will have to wait and see?
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 06:07 PM
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Why just (2) 525cc Injectors, and not a complete set, anyone know the reason?
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Old Jul 12, 2004 | 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by troy49er
Why just (2) 525cc Injectors, and not a complete set, anyone know the reason?
Because your using 8 injectors... This is very common in race vehicles, I Like this method a lot because you keep your stock injectors which idle will be like stock, yet your fuel is still compensated by the 2 extra injectors.
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Old Jul 12, 2004 | 01:23 AM
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Phunk.

Will the HKS S/C ecu be configured for the global market or just the US. ie: Does it get shipped with different maps for different countries?

Also does the HKS S/C ecu controller timing and fuel or just fuel?
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Old Jul 12, 2004 | 04:31 AM
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Would it be possible for HKS to describe what type of testing they put the design through to give us confidence to unit is ready for prime time..Inquiring minds need to know before they throw down $$$K's.. Thanks
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Old Jul 12, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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I don't feel flamed at all. It's all about information.

Self contained oiling is great. It will save on time during an install as well as alleviate the oil lines and the time to route them. I honestly can not see the filter in the picture so the question remains about removing it. I know their filters are very tiny so it may not be an issue. Removing the bumper may only take 15 minutes but some people are not comfortable doing it and if they are paying for the install, it still adds time and money to the total.

I also know HKS's quality is superb but I still disagree with the marketing. Even if they are marketing to group #2 as you described, those owners would still like the most HP while NOT giving up reliability. If HKS is detuning the kit as a trade-off for reliability then that's fine, but you originally said they most likely under-rated the power. If so, then they haven't traded HP for reliabilty.
Which is it?

Less HP for reliabilty?
The same HP and the same reliabilty as every other kit.
OR, the same HP and more reliable? (This would be best).

See what I'm getting at with the marketing.

I have my own company. Have been researching the 350Z market and do have prototype products. (Hopefully available very soon). But I tell you what, when it comes to adding performance to any vehicle, I wouldn't cheat myself by advertising my products as making less power then the competition.

The bottom line is this, no one spends $5000.00 plus on a super charger kit because they are trying to make their car more reliable. They are looking for more power. Reliability is absolutely a huge factor when choosing, but it is not what attracted the attention of the owner in the first place, POWER adding is.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:58 AM
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Would someone who knows, please comment on the fuel and engine management of this kit.

I think this could be very good information based on the price of the kit . . .if you know where I am heading with this!?!?
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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Nice kit! I'd like to know more about engine contol software as well...
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