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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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sorry but living in california sucks when it comes to CARB. can someone post up the systems that are Carb approved and systems that are pending carb approval
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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Stillen Carb approved
Vortech pending
HKS pending
Greddy pending
JWT pending

I think thats it...
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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cool man thanks, by the way. Is Turbonetics gonna try and make a carb approved kit (retain stock cats)
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Brad from Turbonetics mentioned they would be doing something in regards to a CARB legal kit but I'm not sure what it is. Whether it be a TT kit or something else...
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by mudger
sorry but living in california sucks when it comes to CARB. can someone post up the systems that are Carb approved and systems that are pending carb approval
APS has filed as well. Possible Cert in 2005.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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BUMP!

Anymore info on this subject? Stupid cali emission laws! I <3 smog!haha
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by JoshTreeFity
BUMP!

Anymore info on this subject? Stupid cali emission laws! I <3 smog!haha
Same as before. Only Carb Cert system is Stillen. HKS is pending, Greddy is pending, APS is pending, JWT is pending, PE has not filed, Vortech has not filed, ATI has not filed, SSR has not filed, Turbonetics is in process of designing a version of their kit that will pass.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by G3po
APS has filed as well. Possible Cert in 2005.
Peter stated on another forum that APS is not going to obtain CARB approval, but will get approved for 49-state emission test.

Maybe he can chime in.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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Default Re: Re: Re: Carb Cert. FI systems

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Peter stated on another forum that APS is not going to obtain CARB approval, but will get approved for 49-state emission test.

Maybe he can chime in.
Most companies either are not or will not pass. Thats jsut the way it is...
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by nis350ztt
Peter stated on another forum that APS is not going to obtain CARB approval, but will get approved for 49-state emission test.

Maybe he can chime in.
Are you sure you have your information right? I do hope Peter will chime in on this. I hope you are attempting to relay information Peter discussed on APS's soon to be released SINGLE TURBO system, not the APS TWIN TURBO system. Peter has mentioned that APS does not plan to design the SINGLE TURBO kit with CARB in mind. However, I have never read or heard Peter ever say anything other that he is, "quite confident" that the APS TWIN TURBO system will recieve CARB cert.

Thanks
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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Are you sure you have your information right? I do hope Peter will chime in on this. I hope you are attempting to relay information Peter discussed on APS's soon to be released SINGLE TURBO system, not the APS TWIN TURBO system. Peter has mentioned that APS does not plan to design the SINGLE TURBO kit with CARB in mind. However, I have never read or heard Peter ever say anything other that he is, "quite confident" that the APS TWIN TURBO system will recieve CARB cert.

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I am speaking of the twin turbo kit. I will get the quote he said on another forum.
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No new info at the moment, APS engineers are conducting a number of engine emision tests in Australia before spending the time, money, and resources on a CARB Test, the APS TT system I'm sure will pass the US federal exhaust emission test ( IM- 240 test).

Hope this helps.

Peter
But just be careful, becuase the federal emmission standard is totally different from CARB. The Federal standard will get you to pass smog in the 49 states, but NOT CA, unless APS gets the CARB specific approval...which from my understanding...is getting increasingly difficult to do with turbo systems,
- gq_626 (Sharif)

Thanks sharif and yes I understand that the federal IM 240 test is a very different engine emission test to the CARB test, I guess I was just trying to point out that the APS TT system will pass the federal test (IM 240 test) in 49 states without problem (for the guys who don't reside in CA) as we do retain the stock cat converters.

Peter
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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Yes I read this thread also when it was posted in the past. Not sure how you read Peter saying that the APS TT system " was not going to pass C.A.R.B.".
To me it reads as if APS is in the process of doing their tests in Australia and preparing for their application / test to CARB. It seems Peter made reference to the other ( 49 State ) emmisions test to reassure people outside California that there should be no problem with emmisions standards and the APS TT system at this very moment. Sounds like APS wants to get it right the first time with respect to CARB especailly considering the expense of the certification.
By the way CARB is just a revenue producing arm of California's B.S. government. California can't even manage it's budget while fleecing it's own citizens and businesses with taxes and hypocritical bureauracies such as CARB
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by calimarc
Yes I read this thread also when it was posted in the past. Not sure how you read Peter saying that the APS TT system " was not going to pass C.A.R.B.".
To me it reads as if APS is in the process of doing their tests in Australia and preparing for their application / test to CARB. It seems Peter made reference to the other ( 49 State ) emmisions test to reassure people outside California that there should be no problem with emmisions standards and the APS TT system at this very moment. Sounds like APS wants to get it right the first time with respect to CARB especailly considering the expense of the certification.
By the way CARB is just a revenue producing arm of California's B.S. government. California can't even manage it's budget while fleecing it's own citizens and businesses with taxes and hypocritical bureauracies such as CARB
I read it as they weren't confident it would pass, but they were going to at least try to pass it. Just to mention, i'm not being biased to any product. I'm glad I live where I do where there isn't any dB or emission testing.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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I'm sure Peter will clarify APS goals with their TWIN TURBO system and C.A.R.B. certification.
I have a differant interpretaion of what Peter posted in that thread. I suppose people will just have to read it for themselves if it is important to them (until APS updates us ). Peter would be taking quite a differant position concerning this issue and I would be surprised in the abrupt turn-around ( atleast without a vialbe explanation as to why cert. can't be achieved after expected). I am following this very closely obviously since I live in California.
It never occured to me that you where biased toward one particular product or another. Products and the companies they come from speak for themselves over time....that is the FACT. Then of course there is the endless "opinion factor"! lol

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