APS Single Turbo Kit in Developement
#61
Originally posted by ether
how about RHD and LHD compatibility.. I'll take a wild guess that the turbo will be on right hand side of the car
how about RHD and LHD compatibility.. I'll take a wild guess that the turbo will be on right hand side of the car
The APS plan is to release a single Intercooled Turbo system to cater for both right hand/left hand drive Z cars if practical, as long as this does not compromise the production cost of the left hand drive Intercooled Turbo System.
There are a number of different turbo positions for the APS single turbo system development. I believe you will find that the APS engineered approach will make a lot of sense when I'm able to post pictures of the final single intercooled turbo system product.
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Peter
#62
Originally posted by BrianLG35C
Peter,
What hp can we expect with out of the box conservative tuning? What rpm range do you expect the boost to prominently kick in? Please, please make this available for the G!!
Peter,
What hp can we expect with out of the box conservative tuning? What rpm range do you expect the boost to prominently kick in? Please, please make this available for the G!!
I know for sure that the single APS Ball Bearing Intercooled Turbo System will produce around 380 to 400 WHP easily on 94 octane fuel with thorough computer tuning at around 8 PSI turbo pressure.
The real key to safe though high power is awesome intercooling to keep charge air temperature down and precise control of ignition timing (ignition timing retard at higher boost pressure) to avoid engine detonation which is the enemy of all FI engines.
You can expect a real awesome boost/torque curve from the APS single Turbo System as the Ball bearing Garrett turbo will be precisely matched to engine capacity and the exhaust manifolding will provide optimal exhaust gas flow/energy to the Turbocharger.
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Peter
#63
Peter,
the fuel system for the twin and I'm assuming for the single turbo system, has the fuel pressure regulator and return line right outside the fuel tank. wondering why its located there instead of closer to the stock fuel rails? I get the point of upgrading the stock fuel pump and regulator to better control and adjust as needed the fuel pressure. did you find that there was little to no benefit of locating it closer to the stock fuel rails? also while I realize that placing the fp regulator after the injectors would require new fuel rails or modifications to the stock ones (hence a higher price), wondering if you see merit, and if so how much, of setting up the fp regulator after the injectors, both for your out of the box kit and for situations with higher levels of boost?
the fuel system for the twin and I'm assuming for the single turbo system, has the fuel pressure regulator and return line right outside the fuel tank. wondering why its located there instead of closer to the stock fuel rails? I get the point of upgrading the stock fuel pump and regulator to better control and adjust as needed the fuel pressure. did you find that there was little to no benefit of locating it closer to the stock fuel rails? also while I realize that placing the fp regulator after the injectors would require new fuel rails or modifications to the stock ones (hence a higher price), wondering if you see merit, and if so how much, of setting up the fp regulator after the injectors, both for your out of the box kit and for situations with higher levels of boost?
#64
Originally posted by andypandy
wow, now that's a real nut kicker. great price for a great kit..! a few questions... what do you mean by a 'base kit'? do you mean a tuner kit with only the manifolds, turbo and downpipe? seems like the offering kit you've described has pretty much everything in a special combo meal.
wow, now that's a real nut kicker. great price for a great kit..! a few questions... what do you mean by a 'base kit'? do you mean a tuner kit with only the manifolds, turbo and downpipe? seems like the offering kit you've described has pretty much everything in a special combo meal.
There may be a number of options for the APS single turbo system (to keep the MSRP sensible) as the specifictaion has not yet been finalised, it's certainly our intention to keep the APS product very cost effective yet allowing guys the flexibility to pass the hot engine emissions test (the US federal engine emission test IM-240) and upgrade to even higher power down the path.
The base APS turbo system will have every nut, bolt,washer required for the single turbo conversion and the engine management has not yet ben finalised, we are still considering which is the best way to proceed in order to satisfy customer demand, will let you know when I have firm information on this topic.
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Peter
#65
Originally posted by LuksEaZy
I CAN'T WAIT TILL IT IS OUT!!!!
I CAN'T WAIT TILL IT IS OUT!!!!
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Peter
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Hey Peter, what is the possibility of making this kit somewhat universal or multi platform? It would be great to see it work with the G cars and the FX as well. If you go in with the idea, maybe you could come out with a few piping options?
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Yes that's correct the 4 bar fuel pressure reg is mounted externally and pressure referenced to the inlet manifold.
Now obviously the fuel return could be done at the fuel rails, it's just a matter of where to start and stop with additional cost, nothing more nothing less.
We have tested the current fuel system to extreme levels (around 500 rwhp) and the APS fuel system performs well whilst keeping cost to a sensible limit.
We don't see any additional benefit at this power level to justify the additional cost of a full fuel return system from the main fuel rails.
The APS BIG fuel system will have full fuel return from all four billet alloy rails..................I guess it all comes down to cost and what power level you're intending to generate.
Thanks
Peter
Now obviously the fuel return could be done at the fuel rails, it's just a matter of where to start and stop with additional cost, nothing more nothing less.
We have tested the current fuel system to extreme levels (around 500 rwhp) and the APS fuel system performs well whilst keeping cost to a sensible limit.
We don't see any additional benefit at this power level to justify the additional cost of a full fuel return system from the main fuel rails.
The APS BIG fuel system will have full fuel return from all four billet alloy rails..................I guess it all comes down to cost and what power level you're intending to generate.
Thanks
Peter
Originally posted by ether
Peter,
the fuel system for the twin and I'm assuming for the single turbo system, has the fuel pressure regulator and return line right outside the fuel tank. wondering why its located there instead of closer to the stock fuel rails? I get the point of upgrading the stock fuel pump and regulator to better control and adjust as needed the fuel pressure. did you find that there was little to no benefit of locating it closer to the stock fuel rails? also while I realize that placing the fp regulator after the injectors would require new fuel rails or modifications to the stock ones (hence a higher price), wondering if you see merit, and if so how much, of setting up the fp regulator after the injectors, both for your out of the box kit and for situations with higher levels of boost?
Peter,
the fuel system for the twin and I'm assuming for the single turbo system, has the fuel pressure regulator and return line right outside the fuel tank. wondering why its located there instead of closer to the stock fuel rails? I get the point of upgrading the stock fuel pump and regulator to better control and adjust as needed the fuel pressure. did you find that there was little to no benefit of locating it closer to the stock fuel rails? also while I realize that placing the fp regulator after the injectors would require new fuel rails or modifications to the stock ones (hence a higher price), wondering if you see merit, and if so how much, of setting up the fp regulator after the injectors, both for your out of the box kit and for situations with higher levels of boost?
#70
Originally posted by chaps
Hey Peter, what is the possibility of making this kit somewhat universal or multi platform? It would be great to see it work with the G cars and the FX as well. If you go in with the idea, maybe you could come out with a few piping options?
Hey Peter, what is the possibility of making this kit somewhat universal or multi platform? It would be great to see it work with the G cars and the FX as well. If you go in with the idea, maybe you could come out with a few piping options?
Maybe you could ship an FX out to Oz then I promise you APS would investigate the FX Turbo issue thoroughly.
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Peter
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Peter,
Wow~! Love the stuff you guys come up with and if you duplicate the twin-turbo IC design except with a single lower inlet endtank, man that's going to be super nice for my application.
Are things like the IC and this fuel system available alone? If so, any chance you can reveal their price?
Wow~! Love the stuff you guys come up with and if you duplicate the twin-turbo IC design except with a single lower inlet endtank, man that's going to be super nice for my application.
Are things like the IC and this fuel system available alone? If so, any chance you can reveal their price?
Originally posted by APS
Yes 6 multi orifice 500cc fuel injectors will be included in the APS Intercooled Single Turbo system designed for the Z engine with the multi valve cyl head (correct spray pattern and delta angle for the VQ-35 4 valve cyl head).
Have a browse of the APS web site as all of the fuel system info from the APS TT system will be applied to the APS single turbo system http:// www.**************/350z/fuel/fuel.htm
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peter
Yes 6 multi orifice 500cc fuel injectors will be included in the APS Intercooled Single Turbo system designed for the Z engine with the multi valve cyl head (correct spray pattern and delta angle for the VQ-35 4 valve cyl head).
Have a browse of the APS web site as all of the fuel system info from the APS TT system will be applied to the APS single turbo system http:// www.**************/350z/fuel/fuel.htm
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peter
#72
Originally posted by learn2turn
WILL IT FIT THE AUTO TRANS ?
WILL IT FIT THE AUTO TRANS ?
Will let you know when I know for sure.
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Peter
#73
Originally posted by IceY2K1Max
Peter,
Wow~! Love the stuff you guys come up with and if you duplicate the twin-turbo IC design except with a single lower inlet endtank, man that's going to be super nice for my application.
Are things like the IC and this fuel system available alone? If so, any chance you can reveal their price?
Peter,
Wow~! Love the stuff you guys come up with and if you duplicate the twin-turbo IC design except with a single lower inlet endtank, man that's going to be super nice for my application.
Are things like the IC and this fuel system available alone? If so, any chance you can reveal their price?
Thanks
peter
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