Eibach and SPC alignment kits
04-23-2005, 07:23 PM
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Sure, whatever it takes to make you feel more secure. Just talking with my alignment tech made me feel better about it. The guy is actually my neighbor for 4 yrs now. Great guy.....
I was just trying to help out since it worked for me. Best of luck if you decide on doing this mod also!
-justin
I was just trying to help out since it worked for me. Best of luck if you decide on doing this mod also!
-justin
04-26-2005, 03:42 PM
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question...
Originally Posted by protocav
i too deal with evans tire on convoy. i have been there 5 times myself, and have sent about 10 guys there.
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04-26-2005, 06:27 PM
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here!
here's a pic from SPC's website.
it's the bolt to the right. protocav has done an excellent write-up. go look on his profile for his web page. i would've posted it, but i didn't ask his permission
it's the bolt to the right. protocav has done an excellent write-up. go look on his profile for his web page. i would've posted it, but i didn't ask his permission
04-27-2005, 08:59 PM
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finally installed!
oooooohhh, they offer lifetime? sweet! i wonder if they'll be kind enough to change my ride height for me.....hmmmm.....
well, i finally installed it today, even after making a stupid mistake (we'll jus' leave it at that). i just left the toe at the zero (12 o'clock) setting and i shortened the arms a little from stock, and it looks pretty even. of course i'm still gettin' an alignment, but at least i know it works!
you'd be surprised, that when you get your camber less negative, your car looks higher! i will probably lower it another 1/2in or so before i take it in for alignment.
well, i finally installed it today, even after making a stupid mistake (we'll jus' leave it at that). i just left the toe at the zero (12 o'clock) setting and i shortened the arms a little from stock, and it looks pretty even. of course i'm still gettin' an alignment, but at least i know it works!
you'd be surprised, that when you get your camber less negative, your car looks higher! i will probably lower it another 1/2in or so before i take it in for alignment.
04-27-2005, 09:34 PM
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I understand your concern & I too had some concern in the beginning. After talking to my alignment tech who has been a mechanic for 30years, he assured me that this would be totally safe & that some cars even have this type of adjustment from the factory.....just to picture better what I'm talking of on the hole elongation, its the bolt hole on the lower control arm that houses the spring. One end already has a cambolt from the factory, the other just has a regular bolt wich is where the arm connects to the spindle. This hole needs elongated approx 1/8" towards the inside of the car(center). Then you can push the the toe out by pushing the bolt into the elongated slot(towards the center of the car). Then the factory cambolt can be used to adjust the toe into spec.....worked perfectly for me & allowed me to set my camber more positive where as I was unable to before since my toe limited my camber! All I can say is I have done it with great success to date!
-justin
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04-29-2005, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 35oZephyR
Hmmm I wish my Eibach springs were a 1/4 to 1/2 inches lower to eliminate the wheel gap.
Do you guys think it'd be safe to modify the bump stop over the rear spring? You know, the rubber cone thing that holds the spring in place?
Do you guys think it'd be safe to modify the bump stop over the rear spring? You know, the rubber cone thing that holds the spring in place?
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04-29-2005, 01:35 PM
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booo...
Originally Posted by n1cK!
oooooohhh, they offer lifetime? sweet! i wonder if they'll be kind enough to change my ride height for me.....hmmmm.....
04-29-2005, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by protocav
i know what you mean. unfortunately, that rubber is what is holding the top of the spring in place. when you take it off, there is only flat sheet metal up there, and no spring seat. i would pick up a set of coilovers in the future if you want to drop it more.
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04-29-2005, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by myz8a4re
im having trouble believing that theres only flat sheet metal under the rubber isolator. the metal has to be shaped like a hat in order to support the spring, other wise the spring pressure would rip the rubber out when hitting a corner.....i would like to say that the metal underneath is shaped similar to the rubber piece just much smaller. if this is the case i would say an aftermarket isolator could be used, like one from another vehicle if the size/shape were the same. i have some aftermarket isolators from when i had my mustang. i have a set of uppers & lowers that i ended up removing when i bought aftermarket control arms that had the spring perch rubber coated. i attached a pic of the isolators i have. if these would fit in there they would easily drop another 1/4" if not more!
-justin
-justin
since i have taken the rubber upper mount off many times, on many G35's for coilover installations, i can assure you that there is only flat sheet metal up there. for tein coilovers, you just put their upper spring perch around the rubber. for hks coilovers, you must remove the rubber perch, and bolt in the upper perch that is supplied with their coilovers. regardless...if you would like to prove yourself wrong, i would encourage you to take the rubber piece off.
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04-29-2005, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by protocav
i know what you mean. unfortunately, that rubber is what is holding the top of the spring in place. when you take it off, there is only flat sheet metal up there, and no spring seat. i would pick up a set of coilovers in the future if you want to drop it more.
Chad
Chad
I was just looking for a quick alternative for now. Someone mentioned trimming down that rubber, but it's an irreversible process that I don't want to gamble with.
oh well...
04-29-2005, 04:21 PM
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Chad, I'm sorry for questioning your statement, if you've removed the rubber isolator you know more than I do. It just seems odd for no center spring support on the upper perch. How exactly is the isolator mounted? Does it seem as if a smaller isolator could be mounted in?
Thanx,
-justin
Thanx,
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04-29-2005, 05:31 PM
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it works, ha ha!
jus' got the car aligned today. wow, i was all screwed up! here's the before and after numbers:
before/after
one thing though. the specs that evans tire on convoy has is different than the service manual. for instance, the min/max specs (camber) for the rear at evans is -1.8/-0.8 while the service manual states -2.0/-1.0. anyone know the reason for the discrepancy? uh, that would be you chad
ps-oh, and here's a pic for you!
and another one!
ps-and yes, i can feel the difference after the alignment. straight as an arrow! (and it doesn't severely pull to the left when i apply the brakes, ha ha!)
before/after
- camber
- front
- left = -1.4/unchanged
- right = -1.5/unchanged
- rear
- left = -2.8/-1.5
- right = -2.0/-1.4
- front
- toe
- front
- left = .05/0.00
- right = -0.15/0.00
- rear
- left = -0.10/0.05
- right = 0.10/0.05
- front
one thing though. the specs that evans tire on convoy has is different than the service manual. for instance, the min/max specs (camber) for the rear at evans is -1.8/-0.8 while the service manual states -2.0/-1.0. anyone know the reason for the discrepancy? uh, that would be you chad
ps-oh, and here's a pic for you!
and another one!
ps-and yes, i can feel the difference after the alignment. straight as an arrow! (and it doesn't severely pull to the left when i apply the brakes, ha ha!)
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04-30-2005, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by myz8a4re
Chad, I'm sorry for questioning your statement, if you've removed the rubber isolator you know more than I do. It just seems odd for no center spring support on the upper perch. How exactly is the isolator mounted? Does it seem as if a smaller isolator could be mounted in?
Thanx,
-justin
Thanx,
-justin
i agree that the design seems a little odd. the rubber is only being held in by some very thin sheet metal tabs, but i guess they (infiniti) are relying on spring pressure to hold it in. it seems to work. you could probably mount the rubber isolators, like in your pictures, but there would be no lateral support, and i think it may slide out.
Chad
05-01-2005, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by protocav
hey justin,
i agree that the design seems a little odd. the rubber is only being held in by some very thin sheet metal tabs, but i guess they (infiniti) are relying on spring pressure to hold it in. it seems to work. you could probably mount the rubber isolators, like in your pictures, but there would be no lateral support, and i think it may slide out.
Chad
i agree that the design seems a little odd. the rubber is only being held in by some very thin sheet metal tabs, but i guess they (infiniti) are relying on spring pressure to hold it in. it seems to work. you could probably mount the rubber isolators, like in your pictures, but there would be no lateral support, and i think it may slide out.
Chad
-justin