everycar has their weakness if you just do the research on it

 

If they can disable the immobolizer they don't need a key. They use a dent puller to pull the ignition out and turn it with a screw driver.

 

Hey u guys should get ur windows etched
http://www.vinshield.com/vs/Public/H...Work/index.cfm

and check these out:

http://www.autotechs.com/subcat90.htm

 

Some bastard try to steal my car. I was in new brusinwick at the movies theater. I came out and noticed, my door handle was pryed 3inches off the door, with the wires showing. I guess they ran out of time. But those bastards did enough damage. They cut my alarm wire and some other things. Cost me $900 to repair the damage, they did to the door and lock.

 

If there was a government job involving the hands-on punishment of car theives, i'd be first in line to apply.


Yes, I wish I was batman.

 

This wont work for our cars, they probably would be able to get the key if the dealers were stupid but they would have to bring in the car to get it programmed to work.

 

I've been reading a lot lately about how easy it is to bypass the factory security system and gain access to our Gs. It seems the preferred method is to pop the drivers side door lock cylinder out and use the wires there to disarm the alarm, unlock the door, and, if wanted, put the window down.

The reason this can be done is because of the fact that the drivers door lock is hardwired to the BCM of the car so that you can put the windows down and so you can unlock the passengers side door from the drivers doorlock.

If you cut the wire that runs between the actual lock cylinder and the window control module (yellow wire in my 04 coupe) you will prevent thiefs from using this method to bypass the security system. You will lose the ability to unlock the passengers door by using your key IN the drivers cylinder, you will lose the ability to put the windows down by using the cylinder, but, you will still be able to unlock the drivers door using the key. The drivers door lock switch will still lock and unlock all doors, and you will still be able to use the factory remote to lock, unlock, and put the windows down.

If you never use your key in the drivers door (like me) and live in a high auto theft area (unlike me) I would suggust you cut this wire and make it a lot harder on the bad guys.

I have never tried any of this myself, but according to the research I've done into the window control module I'm working on and based on the schematics of the locking system it should work flawlessly. Someone needs to try this out and report back to us!!!!

Here's how it's done"

Pop the housing the contains the door lock switch and power window switchs off of the drivers door. It's just held on by a few metal clips, just pull straight up on it from the end closest to the back of the car. Once you have it romoved you will see all the wires going into the power window module. The wire you need to cut will read 5vdc at all times EXCEPT when you turn the key in the cylinder to LOCK. When you do this it will go to 0vdc. As soon as you release the key from the lock position the wire will go back to 5vdc. Make sure you somehow insulate the wire coming from the power window module as it will still have 5vdc on it after you cut it. It would be a good idea to also tape (or insulate somehow) the other end of the wire. Hope this helps some people.

Kevin

 

omg....are you stupid....will a mod please delete this post actually this whole thread should be deleted. There are theives who search forums for this kind of information. I would not like this information posted of how to steal our cars.

 

double post

 

This information is WIDELY availible on the internet. This is nothing new. I first found out about it in a forumn discussing the exact same thing.

http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...c=1&PHPSESSID=

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=61721

It is only fair that if the car thiefs have been using this tactic for 3+ years that the owners of new Nissans be made aware of this vulnerable spot.

Chill out on your post turbo (Hookedup240), and maybe you will learn something about your car that will prevent some low life from stealing it.

Kevin

 

I think it's ironic that you ask for the post to be deleted, but at the same time quote all the information you want deleted

 

this whole thread should be deleted

 

I for one must thank you for this info. I'll do this soon. I suppose it's better to do it in an area where they cannot access it from the lock hole though. Is there something similar for the passenger side too?
And hookedup, obviously they are stealing the cars already so this post only serves to help us owners...

 

HookedUp, Its rediculus to think that this thread is going to help a theif steal one of our cars. Any real theif isn't using this site to get their information. I started this thread to find out how it could be done to settle my curiosity and to try to protect myself and everyone else on the form who owns a Z or a G35 Coupe. The theifs are already educated about this, if we don't try to understand how it works ourselves then we are giving them the advantage.

To everyone else, they found my brother's car today. I thought there was no way it would turn up but it did. It was in Elizabeth, NJ. He went to look at it this afternoon and he said it was smashed up pretty good on every side. All the wheels were scraped up and he said the tires looked very worn, so they must have been burning the tires and really abusing the car. The insurance is going to cover the damage but what about all the extra wear on the engine and transmission? He's just stuck with all that. A cop went to fingerprint the car and they also had a description from the day it was stolen so I really hope they catch the people who are responsible for this. Everyone be careful of where you park cause this could happen to you and trust me its a real pain in the a** when it does. Not to mention your car will never be the same, even after it gets fixed.

 

afr0puff, what is the logic behind tinting your windows so they are less prone to smash and grab? I'd think that a thief would think you have nice stuff in the car if he can't see in it.

Is it that the window tint film prevents the window from shattering, thus making it harder to get into the vehicle?

 

i'd have to check on my G35 but my 2000 Maxima did have an alarm sensor for the hood....i suspect the same thing for the coupe but i guess i'll have to check to find out...

 

KPierson, why don't YOU implement this mod and report back to the forum. Your method seems sound, so please, let us know how it goes. I think I'll pass on this fix for now, though.

 

Without going too far into depth in the forum your hood pin, rather it exists for does not exist, would be worthless when it comes to this kind of 'attack.' The battery doesn't have to be disabled either. I still have yet to implement my 'idea' on my car, but I know it will work, I just don't live in a high enough crime area to bother with it. The guys here are still having a hard time trying to figure out how to steal camrys.....

To cut this wire you don't have to take the door panel off, just remove the finisher that the switches are mounted in, it will expose the entire power window module that these wires go to. Under normal circumstances these wires will be 'open' (not connected to anything) anyway, so cutting them will actually not effect the car in any way. The power window module provides 5vdc constantly on this wire to keep a signal on it (for digital comms) and when you turn the key in the cylinder it basically shorts out the computer to show a 'low' signal, thus telling the BCM to lower the windows. If you don't ever allow the switch to switch (by cutting the wire) you'll be set.

The only MAJOR problem I see with this is that if you EVER lose your keyfob you will kinda be screwed as there wouldn't be a way to disarm the system with the key...

Kevin Pierson
www.KPtechnologies.net

 

muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah!!!

 

I used a switch to cut power to the unit while the car is off. I won't go into the details on a public forum but the wiring diagram tells the tale of why this should be done. I lose the ability to roll down my windows with the FOB and key but everything else remains the same.

A pro will get my car regardless. I a 2-bit thief reading a message board will not.