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Old 06-17-2004, 08:17 PM
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Angry help!!! injen CAI sucking in water causing hydrolock

hi,

i have an ingen CAI on my G35 6speed coupe and went through a run off, a deep one in PA on tuesday, and it sucked up water into my motor. I was in 2nd going up a hill... It happened that I was around an infiniti dealership and the service manager had it towed to his shop. The shop said I need a new motor - $7500 + $4000 in labor. Is it possible that I need a new motor. It does not crank and they ruled out plugs. Could it be the coil or MAF? They also said it can't be rebuilt. Does anyone know a good rebuild shop that does G35 around NY,NJ or PA? and if I go that route, is it worth it to upgrade to performace parts?

Does any know where is the best place to get a VQ35 motor?

How would I know the engine is hosed and take the dealer's word for it?

any help would be great

WARNING to others - the extra gain in horses is not worth it

thanks,
gerard
Old 06-17-2004, 08:20 PM
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If you sucked in water you probably have bent valves and rods. I've seen it happen many times before to friends with their CAI's.
Old 06-17-2004, 08:41 PM
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damn


this TOTALLY sucks.......

no error codes??

your BEST bet, online, is to PM "infinititech", as he is THE MAN with the infiniti's and their service policies and actions.........

his name is John, but you can call him "da man" too....

best of luck

keep us posted!

-sms

ps- have seen several VQ's on ebay, for LESS than 3K used, if it helps.....
Old 06-18-2004, 08:00 AM
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**** that sux bad......i am gonna unhook my intake soon

thanks for the news
Old 06-18-2004, 08:17 AM
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this is why you NEVER install a cold air intake on a car.

One of my friends just got a brand new WRX and yesterday he was parked at work. The flooding got so bad that the water was up to his car doors and his whole interior got soaked. We had to strip the whole interior out and completely dry the car, everything is still drying outside of the car. The rain yesterday was freaken crazy. Luckily his motor did not hydrolock and his electrical system is fine.

Talk to your insurance company

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Old 06-18-2004, 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by AxionF117
this is why you NEVER install a cold air intake on a car.


or don't drive thru a run-off with a CAI....
Old 06-18-2004, 08:47 AM
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Yeah, I have a CAI but I very rarely drive my car in the rain and especially not when it is a very heavy rain. I also avoid anything that looks like a puddle. They are fine to have but you just have to be extra careful. Sorry to hear the news. Good luck with whatever you decide to do
Old 06-18-2004, 08:59 AM
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I've already had my bad experience with a CAI and hydrolock... I'm definitely not taking any chances for ~1hp gain....
Old 06-18-2004, 10:47 PM
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Take that block out and send it AEBS....they'll rebuild it for ya!!!
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thats why its good to get a bypass valve like the ones on aem or nismo...they prevent hydrolock...when pressure around the intake changes it sucks air from the bypass which is just an open section of hosing with a filter element material around it...
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i hear bypass valve's make you lose Hp
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Originally posted by DJames
i hear bypass valve's make you lose Hp
Yeah but your engine still runs.

A broken engine produces 0 hp.
Old 06-19-2004, 06:49 PM
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I think the popcharger is much safer. It doesnt go behind the grille.
Old 06-19-2004, 10:08 PM
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I heard there isn't a bypass valve for the g35c yet. Its still in production.

Don't ask me, I thought all bypass valve are universal. Got this information from www.stillen.com
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popcharger is awesome but it's stalling issue is totally not.
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Getting back to the original question, odds are if it is really bad, you just have to replace rods, pistons, valves and maybe a few other things. But definitely not a new block and everything else that comes with it if there are only a few parts that are busted. You can probably send your car in to a very reliable performance shop that knows VQ35's and they will rebuild your engine for you with some performance parts. I'm sure you will save some money also. But in order to save money and get the best and most reliable setup, you will have to do a lot of searching and a lot of calling around.
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Most intakes systems are 3 inches in diameter so all it takes is to cut the pipe and fit a aem bypass...and you only lose top end power. All these people are worried about losing 1-2 hp and the thing is you make all of that at top end...I doubt most drivers go red to red on shifts. You gotta figure where you are making the horsepower and what the tradeoff is to ensure the motor. CAI are great for racing and all but the benefits are usually not fully appreciated on a day to day driving application for most drivers. Be safe and get a pop charger or stillen cold air box or even a K&N pannel filter and save yourself the stress of hydrolock and having to disassemble the car to get to your filter.
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I'm sorry to say most of the time I've seen hydolocked motors, the rod will bust though the block. It's not worth it to go in there and try to fix every little thing. Find a junk yard motor and install it a a reputable shop. You should be able to get out the door for at least a few grand under the dealer's price.

Sorry to hear about it though. I truly feel for you.
Old 07-05-2004, 03:23 AM
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Here, I wanna help. Here's a current list of salvage yards that have G35 motors in stock. I checked for you today so this list is current.

Good luck, and don't go to the dealer!!!




Year
Part
Model Description Miles Stock# Price Dealer Info
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z (Cpe), (VQ35DE, VIN "A", 4th digit)-LAT 2423 $3200 TTT Auto Recycler, Inc. USA-TX(Kennedale) Quote 1-800-565-7781 Insurance-Quote
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z 3.5,AT,14K 14K 042131 $3025 Saw Mill Salvage Co. USA-NY(Yonkers) E-mail 1-800-227-1111
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z 4K RAN 5K FA014169 $3000 Bessler Auto Parts USA-KY(Hebron) Quote 1-800-576-6816 Insurance-Quote
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z (Cpe), (VQ35DE, VIN "A", 4th digit)- 4K, U 4K 10381 $3000 Reitman Auto Parts USA-KY(Melbourne) Quote 1-800-221-3993 Insurance-Quote
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z (Cpe), (VQ35DE, VIN "A", 4th digit)- 16K U 16K 10418 $3000 Reitman Auto Parts USA-KY(Melbourne) Quote 1-800-221-3993 Insurance-Quote
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z NT OIL PAN (UPPER) + TIMING C 25K R1604 $3000 AutoGator Roseville USA-CA(Roseville) Quote 1-800-833-9292 Insurance-Quote
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z x-oil pan 5K PP6659 $2880 PRP - Crabtree Auto - PAR Member USA-UT(Ogden) E-mail 1-800-888-2685
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z -@10K NICE 750CORE P0083 $2750.78 Auto Parts of Shelby -PRP USA-NC(Shelby) E-mail 1-888-597-7278
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z 3.5,6M6,MPICAL,NOT RAN,150COMP,-327S 031322 $2750 Foster Auto Parts Inc. USA-OR(Portland) E-mail 1-800-547-4851
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z 3.5,6M6,FAC,MPICAL,R WD,UPDT COND 040535 $2750 Foster Auto Parts Inc. USA-OR(Portland) E-mail 1-800-547-4851
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z 8-02,F5 000764 $2650 Barbers Auto Recycling USA-AL(Ardmore) Quote 1-800-632-2091 Insurance-Quote
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z -(VQ35DE, VIN "A", 4THDIGIT)- 30K P0254 $2500.81 Auto Parts of Shelby -PRP USA-NC(Shelby) E-mail 1-888-597-7278
2003
Engine
Infiniti G35 -(VQ35DE, VIN "C", 4th digit), 2 Dr (Cpe 04024A $2500.14 Butler Auto Parts USA-NC(Forest-City) Quote 1-800-835-4645 Insurance-Quote
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z -LOOK 03900L $2500.14 Butler Auto Parts USA-NC(Forest-City) Quote 1-800-835-4645 Insurance-Quote
2003
Engine
Infiniti G35 -VINC 2DR CPE 3.5 10K 10K 040241 $2500 Auto Recyclers of Kansas USA-KS(Wichita) Quote 1-877-522-5025 Insurance-Quote
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z (Cpe), (VQ35DE, VIN "A", 4th digit)- 2K B3704 $2450.44 K and R Auto Salvage Inc. USA-RI(North-Providence) Quote 1-401-353-9200 Insurance-Quote
2003
Engine
GMC Van 3500 BURN 405536 $1875 Interstate Auto Center, Inc. USA-SD(Harrisburg) E-mail 1-800-296-1416
2003
Engine
Infiniti G35 -2Dr(Cpe)SILVER(nds lwr pan)HOLD N0326 $Call Brims Imports Auto USA-OH(Kenton) Quote 1-800-221-3874 Insurance-Quote
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z 3MTH WARR 3.5 300.00 CORE 04F222 $Call Jim's Import Auto Salvage USA-FL(Sebring) E-mail 1-800-447-4707
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z 11K MILES/RUNOIU GOOD 11K 040038 $Call Nica Motors, Inc. USA-TX(San-Antonio) Quote 1-800-251-5656 Insurance-Quote
2003
Engine
Nissan 350Z 3.5 WIRE FIRE -648 ETC 190 DAYS XC I6735R $Call New Castle Auto Wrecking, Inc. USA-PA(New-Castle) E-mail 1-800-245-2226
2003
Engine
GMC Van 3500 P1921 $Call Mid Island Auto Parts, Inc. USA-NY(Deer-Park) E-mail 1-800-414-9726
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Did you talk to your insurance company? In my experience it will be covered as flood damage (happened to one of my ex-girlfriends mom's Concord a few years ago). Don't mention that you had a CAI installed though.


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