Notices
Intake Exhaust Moving all that air in and out efficiently

Lower idle after crawford plenum

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-06-2004, 01:00 PM
  #1  
winw
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
winw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tampa
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Lower idle after crawford plenum

What is the normal idle? I am usually only several hundred rpms. I noticed this after adding the plenum on top of the cats.

It doesn't idle rough and I don't believe I have any leaks. Curious if this has happended to others.
Old 12-07-2004, 05:17 AM
  #2  
winw
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
winw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tampa
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Lower idle after crawford plenum

bump
Old 12-07-2004, 05:38 AM
  #3  
alphaz
Registered User
 
alphaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Buford,Ga.
Posts: 323
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I believe that after warm up the Z should idle around
650+/- 50 rpms. I have the Crawford plenum and did not see a change that I can remember.
Old 12-07-2004, 05:54 AM
  #4  
VandyZ
New Member
iTrader: (2)
 
VandyZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 3,702
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Tap the throttle at idle and see if the car wants to die (or does die) as it returns to idle. Try it with the A/C both on and off. If it does it prolly has a leak somewhere. Otherwise it may just be your "warm" idle you are noticing. I dont remember exactly about the idle as I have mine set at 775 to remove the bumpy stock idle.
Old 12-07-2004, 09:32 AM
  #5  
winw
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
winw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tampa
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by VandyZ
Tap the throttle at idle and see if the car wants to die (or does die) as it returns to idle. Try it with the A/C both on and off. If it does it prolly has a leak somewhere. Otherwise it may just be your "warm" idle you are noticing. I dont remember exactly about the idle as I have mine set at 775 to remove the bumpy stock idle.
It doesn't seem to want to die, it just seems a little lower. When it's warm it's about 100 rpms higher. Cold, it's 300+ rpms, hot, its over 500.

If TS had the 2004.5 ECU done, I would have it fixed with that.
Old 12-07-2004, 09:50 AM
  #6  
alphaz
Registered User
 
alphaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Buford,Ga.
Posts: 323
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Did you replace the small bolts on the inside of the plenum. If I remember correctly there are two of them......make sure they are snug....do not over torque them.
Old 12-07-2004, 10:09 AM
  #7  
winw
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
winw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tampa
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by alphaz
Did you replace the small bolts on the inside of the plenum. If I remember correctly there are two of them......make sure they are snug....do not over torque them.
Yes, all holes were filled with bolts. It's not sputteringg or dieing or anything. It's just that the overall rpm idle seems a couple 100 rpms lower. I wonder if there's a way to do a throttle body adaptation.
Old 12-07-2004, 10:53 AM
  #8  
alphaz
Registered User
 
alphaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Buford,Ga.
Posts: 323
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Have you tried an ECU reset ? You know doing the river dance on the gas pedal style . The procedure is in the manual.
Old 12-07-2004, 10:58 AM
  #9  
winw
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
winw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tampa
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by alphaz
Have you tried an ECU reset ? You know doing the river dance on the gas pedal style . The procedure is in the manual.
No, maybe I should try that.
Old 12-07-2004, 04:48 PM
  #10  
zzzya
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
zzzya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Iowa
Posts: 1,158
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

If you unplugged the TB or disconnected the battery when installing the plenum, the service manual does call for a TB resetting procedure to be done. This is posted along with the ECU resetting procedure on Technosquare's website. Timing is everything when doing this.

http://www.technosquareinc.com/350reset.htm
Old 12-07-2004, 05:11 PM
  #11  
Machupo
Registered User
iTrader: (6)
 
Machupo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Eltmann, Franconia
Posts: 1,676
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

wow -- 300 rpms?

when my Z's cold it idles at about 1250, then lowers as it gets warm to around 700-750rpm
Old 12-08-2004, 08:56 AM
  #12  
neffster
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
neffster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Oviedo, FL
Posts: 541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by Machupo
wow -- 300 rpms?

when my Z's cold it idles at about 1250, then lowers as it gets warm to around 700-750rpm
That sounds about right for the G as well. Winw, don't forget that the first line on the gage cluster is 500 rpm's and not zero rpm's. If you're just a few clicks above that, you'll be at 700 rpm's and not 200 rpm's.

Also, I unplugged the connector to the TB on the plenum install and never reset the ECU. No problems with my 2004.5 6MT at all. Are you sure that the plastic ring around the oil cap is not caught beneath the plenum and allowing a slight amount of air to enter the plenum?
Old 12-09-2004, 06:21 AM
  #13  
winw
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
winw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tampa
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Winw, don't forget that the first line on the gage cluster is 500 rpm's and not zero rpm's. If you're just a few clicks above that, you'll be at 700 rpm's and not 200 rpm's.

[/B]
Okay, now I feel like a total dumbass. Maybe it's not as bad as I thought.
Old 12-09-2004, 06:25 AM
  #14  
alphaz
Registered User
 
alphaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Buford,Ga.
Posts: 323
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Don't worry about it....just glad to hear you don't have a problem.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
liqalu04
Engine & Drivetrain
31
01-02-2022 12:58 PM
Lt_Ballzacki
Brakes & Suspension
39
08-06-2021 06:19 AM
Colombo
Forced Induction
35
11-09-2020 10:27 AM
ars88
Zs & Gs For Sale
18
04-04-2016 07:52 AM



Quick Reply: Lower idle after crawford plenum



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:49 PM.