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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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What the hell is the difference in these pop chargers?

I've heard nothing but greatness from the JWT as well as the Injen. So why is Injen's so much more?

What more are you getting?
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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Well, first of all...the JWT Popecharger is just a filter element & a heat shield where as the Injen has additional tubes: One is a tube to replace the OEM piece (tube that connects from the throttle body to the filter element) & another silicone tube that allows you to extend it to the front of your car behind the grille.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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the difference is the filter placement... the jwt puts the cone filter where your airbox used to be, and the injen pipes it down to the front of your grill (cold air intake). Either one is fine, and give very similar gains (probably wont notice between the 2). I got the injen because a)i found one used that was local and b) because mentally i feel like i have more potential for colder air.

I believe that the jwt popcharger is louder too!
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 04:01 AM
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As explained above, Injen is an optional short ram cold-air intake, marginal gains for the price difference, I think it's worth it if you are shooting for 300rwhp.

Oh, and, moved.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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you can also do what I did and get the pop-charger with a UTR intake tube. They come polished, chrome, or carbon fiber and you still come out over $100 cheaper than a CAI and I've noticed the performance gain quite a bit even while turning up the juice and getting that engine bay nice and hot. Best bang for the buck IMHO.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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I personally don't see how an aluminum tube vs. a plastic (I assume the stock is plastic) tube will gain anything...JMO.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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If you are looking for higher power numbers, Injen.
Basic N/A mods, JWT.

Either is good :]
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Q
What the hell is the difference in these pop chargers?

I've heard nothing but greatness from the JWT as well as the Injen. So why is Injen's so much more?

What more are you getting?
either will do for you. I got my injen for 199 shipped from injected peformance
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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I'm wondering if I should make the switch. IMO the JWT popcharger is taking in more warm air then cold, and possibly robbing me of HP. Plus, the intake is so cheap that its may be worth it to switch.

I spoke with a vendor about this and they said its a waste of my time.

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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by GQ 350z
I'm wondering if I should make the switch. IMO the JWT popcharger is taking in more warm air then cold, and possibly robbing me of HP. Plus, the intake is so cheap that its may be worth it to switch.

I spoke with a vendor about this and they said its a waste of my time.

ravi
+1 on a waste of time
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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I have tossed around this idea for 2 years...and still cant decide....
There is a thread titled "JWT Fix"..all the talk of stalling on JWT's, hydrolock on Injen and AEM's, make me say "forget about it"...

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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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I got close to hydro lock with my Injen setup. Had it down low, now it is short ram. I say close b/c I had milky oil and white smoke out the exhaust...water had been sucked in, but apparently not enough to do damage. I did 3 High detergent oil changes and then 2 regular oil changes in about 2000 miles time. Very close...
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 350ZTN
I got close to hydro lock with my Injen setup. Had it down low, now it is short ram. I say close b/c I had milky oil and white smoke out the exhaust...water had been sucked in, but apparently not enough to do damage. I did 3 High detergent oil changes and then 2 regular oil changes in about 2000 miles time. Very close...
Hey Dude did your CAI have a bypass valve on it when you were close to getting hydro lock? I've looked at this concept of a CAI. Lets' say your CAI did have a bypass and the filter down low did get wet. Then that means you wouldn't be able to get air through the filter, the only air your engine will be receiving is through the bypass value. So that's why I went with the JWT Popcharger and never have to worry about starving my motor of air evening in raining weather or even a greater concern (hydro lock).
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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I've been toying with this idea for awhile now. i currently have the AEM intake and am debating on getting either the JWT or the Injen. I've also considered the K&N though...so confusing

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Well, first of all...the JWT Popecharger ....
Haha, POPEcharger, if I had any ps skills, then I'd do it. But of course then, I'd probably go to hell if I did...

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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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Ahahah! didn't even realize that typo. Oh well
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To be quite frank, no dyno you see for any intakes will be entirely accurate. The car needs to be in actual motion to determine the true HP of what the intake is actually making, hence COLD AIR INTAKE. When its on a dyno, the car is at a stand still which defeats the whole purpose of cold air induction. In my honest opinion, the stock Z intake system is already a great design. The route I would go with is the JWT Popcharger, yea it has had its share of problems but it is not the case for EVERY Z thats out on the road with it. With the amount of Pop Chargers we have sold and not hearing about any complaints from customers, it does not discourage me to get one. Plus it is the most cost effective route to go as far as intakes, it may not get all the HP like a CAI but do you really want to spend 100+ more dollars just to get 1 or 2 more HP? Plus there is convenience issue, with CAI's, it is a pain to clean them having to take off the filter, with the Pop Charger, its right there, and the added liability of hydrolocking also makes the Pop Charger a smarter choice. If you calculate out HP per dollar, just isnt worth it. Just my .02 guys.
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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What about upgrading the stock filter with the $85 (ouch) Nismo filter?
I thought I read somewhere just doing that is a big improvement witrh no worries....
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Originally Posted by VinUnleaded
What about upgrading the stock filter with the $85 (ouch) Nismo filter?
I thought I read somewhere just doing that is a big improvement witrh no worries....
The Nismo or K&N drop in filter are both great ways to go but it wont be as effective as getting an actual intake system. With the drop in filters, you wont be able to tell any notice in sound, it will feel like a smoother ride but really nothing significantly different.
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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How much louder is the JWT over stock. Can yoiu feel a difference? I'm a new owner with borla exhaust and headers and have been looking to upgrade the intake. Thanks!
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy@Performance
The Nismo or K&N drop in filter are both great ways to go but it wont be as effective as getting an actual intake system. With the drop in filters, you wont be able to tell any notice in sound, it will feel like a smoother ride but really nothing significantly different.
Really? I heard that drop in filters are nearly no increase in hp? Sport Compact Car did a RSX Intake test a while back and the K&N drop in filter had no increase in hp! I was assuming that although the volume of air being sucked in is MUCH smaller on a dyno compared to real life...
wouldn't the real world gains be pretty small? Do you know anything about this...?

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How much louder is the JWT over stock. Can yoiu feel a difference? I'm a new owner with borla exhaust and headers and have been looking to upgrade the intake. Thanks!
Hey glide, I don't know about the JWT...but the Injen sounds very nice, a little bit louder, nothing bothersome. We had a fujitsubo exhuast and dc headers at the time of the intake install and it sounded great =]
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