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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jvanquish
I am running no plenum...
so what does that mean?
I dunno man, you'd need a baseline dyno and a redyno to find out. Like I said, I personally dont like CAI's on Z's or other cars now anymore.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 06:08 AM
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The reason I don't like CAI is because cleaning the filter is a hassel unlike the popcharger. 1 day my friend pop off his CAI on another type of car and the filter was hella nasty. Then I think of it like this. Imagine a straw w/ a hole somewhere on the tube like a CAI preventing hydrolock with a bypass value. Now Imagine if the filter got wet and the only air the engine could suck in, is through the bypass value. When materials become wet air doesn't pentrate as well, if not at all. So my decision was the popcharger from day 1 and of course for the money, it is the best bang for it's buck compare to any other CAI or Short Ram. I also concur with Alberto was saying about the air isn't as smooth flowing!
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Yes guys I have dyno sheets to prove it. AEM intakes or CAI's dont work well with the Crawford plenum. When I switched to a Pop-charger 1 week later I dyno'd 10whp higher. Others I have talked to online have also had similar results in going to a short ram from a CAI when running a Crawford plenum.

Did the temp/humidity change in that week? Also, Dyno with the hood open and closed, The pop charger looses alot of that dyno power with hood closed. When its open it has a free shot at alot of air from where the hood normallt seals it off. I've personally seen -5 HP in back to back to back pulls, Open, closed, open. The numbers were like 241, 236, 240. Just opening and closing the hood. Also, a few weeks later, the same guy installed a CF air scoop in the front that ducts to the filter through the bumper. Then it was only about 2 HP with the hood closed. At speed, I'm sure the forced air would add a little power.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Yes, this may/may not also apply to the regular Kinetix plenum and/or the Plenum spacers on the market. Shop owner of where I dyno told me the CAI on the Z is way to long, and that there is too much turbulence in the intake with CAI's and the plenum. He asked "if you had two guys drinking water out of two cups, one guy has a short straw and the other guy has a long, curvy straw of the same diamater who would win?" I said the short straw, direct shot, less force on the guy to suck up, he said same goes for air and your motor. I thought it was BS but I spent $100 and redyno'd 1 week later, it worked, and throttle response was way better. I wouldnt recommend a CAI on a Z to anybody now.
I agree 100%!
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue05Z
Did the temp/humidity change in that week? Also, Dyno with the hood open and closed, The pop charger looses alot of that dyno power with hood closed. When its open it has a free shot at alot of air from where the hood normallt seals it off. I've personally seen -5 HP in back to back to back pulls, Open, closed, open. The numbers were like 241, 236, 240. Just opening and closing the hood. Also, a few weeks later, the same guy installed a CF air scoop in the front that ducts to the filter through the bumper. Then it was only about 2 HP with the hood closed. At speed, I'm sure the forced air would add a little power.
Weather doesnt matter, I didnt use actual dyno numbers, I used SAE corrected numbers, so I could compare. Hood open both times.....take my dyno results for what they are worth to you, I know it gained power over the AEM.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Somehow i knew i did the right thing way back when.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by concuthatbu
Popcharger gained 10 whp? Are you sure?
His car gained 10 whp vs. having the AEM ....it is fact my Dyno garage even said he has seen many lose power from AEM/NISMO CAI . You have to take into consideration of your other mods they all play a part..
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