Anyone tried this thing, there selling it for $205.00 at Performance Nissan

http://performancenissanparts.com/ca...oducts_id=5573

 

do a search in the threads. There are people that like it and others that hate it.

I myself would just spend an extra $50.00 and get the AAM or Motordyne spacer

 

DONT DO IT! Do a search and you will see that they have a junk product for our VQ's

 

i have one and disagree, i think that it is made out of a great material and after an hours drive you can just hold your hand on the plenum and its not even hot, i dont have any dyno numbers but i could tell a difference.


just my honest opinion, skunk2 is one of the leading performance companies gear toward hondas and with you guys ragging on them, im sure that they wont work on any more products for the VQ. we need more companies to put out products so the over prices will have competition and become lower.

its $200 and it will put down the same numbers as all the plenum spacers.

they all do the exact same thing...

 

All I saw were poor installation instructions and the recommendation to use silicon on our plenums and the draining of our coolant. WTF Skunk2 is great in the Honda world, but not on the VQ's (yet). They all do the same exact thing? Really? I could have swore that Motordyne is the only company to provide all of the "extras" that a gearhead would love to have, which is quality parts.

I know that people tend to favor the parts they purchased personally, but lets not embellish and put down a blanket statement of them all doing the same thing. I waited 6 months before making a decision on what company to go with and Motordyne was by far the best choice.

 

See what I mean

 

ok sorry well the instructions werent the best, but if you need to read instructions on how to take the top half of the plenum off, you really shouldnt be doing it anyways...


my general statement was meaning, they all open up the plenum and let more volume (air) into it, thats it, and when it comes down to it, they all do the same thing, you might get better instuctions, or better bolts, or maybe even a sticker for your car, but they all are doing the same thing....

if i didnt like it, even though i personally bought it, i would tell you. if it sucked i would be the first one to say it. i was very happy with this product though, so thats what i stated. just saying that a big performace company like Skunkworks doesnt need to be bashed on here. we need as many companies as we can working and developing stuff for the VQ.

not trying to start any kinda war or anything, just speaking my mind

 

No offense taken whatsoever The reason why I pointed out the directions as being poor is not about me or any other person being able to install a simple bolt-on, but I as a consumer believe that it reflects on how the company conducts business and their strive for perfection. If a company has shoddy instructions and poor suggestions such as silicon and the drainage of coolant when it is unnecessary, I think it is fair to say that the company did something wrong during the devolopment of said product.

Although your argument about them opening up the plenum for more air is partly correct in that they "want to do the same thing, but I will argue that they do "not do the same thing." I take it very literal when someone states that they do the "same thing." No other plenum/spacer comes with a ISO thermal gasket. No ther plenum gives you all of the hardware you need to retain the OEM/aftermarket strut bar. No other plenum spacer has the backing of a knowledgeable person that devoloped it like Tony Collette. The list can go on and on about the minute details, but hands down Motordyne makes the spacer developed by skunk2 on our VQ's a joke and I find I offensive that they would release such a product as if they were mocking our intelligence.

 

well if i could have read my instructions i would have read to drain the coolant, but since i couldnt i didnt even see that, not that i would have drained any of it....

i see your point though, i just wish there was more competition for parts for these cars so the price wasnt so unreasonably high, i think that maybe stating that you liked the motordyne spacer a million times better and that it comes with all the necassary hardware etc would have been the correct answer, not to bash one of our few hopes for development for the VQs, especially that they customize in NA all motor cars....

glad this didnt turn into some stupid internet arguement and we both made points clear...

 

Yeah, I welcome more competition with open arms to hopefully drive down prices for us modders However, I am very big on quality parts and I don't like to see people get "taken" in a sense by companies that are jumping in to make a quick buck rather than completing their R & D correctly and releasing a legit product.

 

well i feel the skunk2 spacer is a quality part, i got mine for 180$ brand new. it only comes with the spacer and necessary bolts but it is 70 cheaper. poor instructions didnt matter for me i threw it in after porting my lower plenum. having it flowbenched, and direct porting my nitrous into it. so it was just one more step. then before even running it i traded my G sedan in on a 03 touring that i got two days ago, so time to do everything to this thing....

tell you after two days with this car, test pipes on , K n N on, and my plenum spacer, this things pullls like a beast now, going to the track tonight to see what it will run with just that stuff and then going to throw my nitrous on when i have some time next week!!! rickdogg, you have all your mods posted anywhere?? i see all your sponsors, congrats on that!! i have been racing cars for a while now, just got roped into the VQ family right over a year ago....

 

You can check it out on

The latest issue of Performance Auto and Sound or any of the 3 links below

http://www.jtuned.com/

http://www.overboost.com/story_intro.asp?id=1420

http://www.speedoptions.com/features/cars.php?carID=116

 

nice man, i need some sponsors, i am the same type of person, but in florida, just dont give a f u c k....

 

I hope to pick up a couple sponsors tomorrow at PRI. I've already semi-got JWT, and might pick up someone else who isn't at PRI.

 

I Am still Trying to find why the Motordyne or AAM spacer is "better" than the Skunk2 Spacer.
Motordyne
1. Phenolic Plenum Spacer
2. Bolts and Hardware
3. Injection Molded Plastic Mini Spacers
4. Gasket
5. Lowers intake Temp with Thermal gasket
6. +10-12 HP/ +10-12 TQ (Dynojet)
7. $265.00 + Shipping

SkunkWorks
1. Carbon Composite Nylon 6 Spacer
2. Bolts and Hardware
3. Carbon Composite Nylon 6 Mini Spacers
4. Lowers intake Temps by avoiding heat transfer alltogether via thermal resistant construction material (Do a internet search on CCN-6)
5. +10-12HP /+10-12 TQ (Superflow)
6. 2-3 MPG better Fuel Economy.
7. $205.00 Shipped??

AAM
1. Aluminum spacer (Aluminum conducts heat, Nuf Said)
2. Hardware and Bolts
3. Alum. Mini Spacers
4. Does Nothing to intake temps, Still Hot.
5. + 9-10Hp / +10 Tq (Dyno??)
6. $230.00 Shipped?

Stack up the Pro's and Cons For yourself, but I would think the top two would Be Motordyne and Skunk2 By a landslide, and between the two of them, I would pic the company that has used better material, and been making some of the worlds fastest cars for the past 10 or 15 years. Just because they are able to offer a better product at a lower price, doesnt mean they are EVIL , maybe just have better resouces and years of R&D to draw from.

 

interesting. lets ask the skunk2 owner or even a rep what they think. opps I forgot, they don't have a skunk2 rep on this or any other Z forum I'm on. to me it speaks a lot about the quality and intergity of a product if the company that makes it cares and knows enough about the community to at least represent themselves on the places that owners congrigate. I don't have anything against skunk2 or their products, however I have no reason to believe that their any good either. what do I care if they've been sucessful with honda's? I drive a Z... I'll trust tony (motordyne owner and sponsor on this forum) and dave (motordyne distributor and also a sponsor on this forum) before some company that has yet to contribute anything info/knowledge or even an opinion to the Z community.

 

What if a Skunk2 Representative was Quietly Snooping around the boards as Different Username's to Provoke and Collect Unbiased Data in Honest Effort to Bring Z- Owners a Quality Product at a More Affordable cost. Perhaps they are Trying to Offer the Best Solution, Even if it is NOT a high profit item for them.
Perhaps Skunk2 Also Relies on:
A Firm R&D Background, Engineering, 3D Modeling and Fluid Dynamics Simulations as well as Thermal Imaging and Heat Simulations.
Rigorous Track And Dyno Testing On a Load Dyno as well As Engine Dyno Testing for performance and reliability.
Unbiased Feedback from Real World Customers and Track Enthusiasts, as well as Z Owners.

Perhaps...

 

For those who are interested in the Skunk 2 plenum spacer, here's a link to somebody that sells it for $189+ shipping. http://hpautoworks.chainreactionweb....38b3b83fe20ad3

 

I think alot of people here are jumping to conclusions before they see hard data.

These spacers are all about quality materials. increasing HP, and trying to keep the manifold a little cooler. I don't see how any of these products are better than the other. The Sport Z mag shootout puts the Motordyne above the AAM, but the Skunk2 was not included.

Ragging ong skunk2 because there isn't a representative on the board is irrelevant to me. I could care less. All I want is a quality piece of meterial with gains at or near the stated claims. To each their own I guess

 

To me, one sign of quality is a complete kit.
Does the Skunk2 spacer come with an upper gasket? No, it ask you to use RTV.
Does the Skunk2 spacer come with previsions so you can use your stock strut bar? No.
Have more then a few people said the plenum came in contact with their hood and rubbed off the paint? Yes.

But good luck with your Skunk2, I think people should buy what they want, it's their car.
Chris