Cracked Cats!!Help!!!
#21
Originally Posted by Gary King
Are you guys with the cracked cat problem's noticing any road rash on your exhausts when you inspect them?
yes...slight on my mid pipe and i have torn up the braided stainless on my y-pipe...but its not all the way through
at some point, i am going to have these pieces replaced while the exhaust is on the car. i am hoping that the welder can relieve some of that binding with the exhaust
#22
I also tore the braiding on my Y pipe but that happened before I got Cats. I did crack one myself by scraping it on a speed bump but I paid for that one, its the other several replacements when there was no bottoming out or scrapes of any kind that concern me. Also cracked with stock headers and later with DC Sports headers. I hope to have better luck with test pipes so far nobody has chimed in with a cracked test pipe so I will consider that to be good news.
#23
Originally Posted by ObZeZZed
I also tore the braiding on my Y pipe but that happened before I got Cats. I did crack one myself by scraping it on a speed bump but I paid for that one, its the other several replacements when there was no bottoming out or scrapes of any kind that concern me. Also cracked with stock headers and later with DC Sports headers. I hope to have better luck with test pipes so far nobody has chimed in with a cracked test pipe so I will consider that to be good news.
if you're cracking heads, twice, then something's either wrong with your car or your driving abilities.
#26
Read the thread I linked below...
andy@performance also has the same setup as you
and seems like he figured out a way to solve the problem
with some spacers and lowering the M-bracket.
He also posted about it within that thread.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....c+y-pipe+nismo
andy@performance also has the same setup as you
and seems like he figured out a way to solve the problem
with some spacers and lowering the M-bracket.
He also posted about it within that thread.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....c+y-pipe+nismo
#27
Originally Posted by 99atlantic
if you're cracking heads, twice, then something's either wrong with your car or your driving abilities.
#28
Originally Posted by gsazabi
Read the thread I linked below...
andy@performance also has the same setup as you
and seems like he figured out a way to solve the problem
with some spacers and lowering the M-bracket.
He also posted about it within that thread.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....c+y-pipe+nismo
andy@performance also has the same setup as you
and seems like he figured out a way to solve the problem
with some spacers and lowering the M-bracket.
He also posted about it within that thread.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....c+y-pipe+nismo
#30
i am also lowered and this creates another problem because the exhaust hangs down lower than i would like. the only way to improve this would be to modify the exhaust and/or hangers so that the exhaust sits up higher and also relieve the binding.
i don't know what version crawford cats i have but i am very happy with them as far as performance goes. fitment was also perfect when i installed the exhaust so i am not sure what causes the cracking on the welds of the cats.
i have dc headers, crawford cats, fuji y pipe and ti catback. i am really happy with this setup and will make repairs or mods as needed. not sure if the problem is specific to my particular brands and their fitment. i see the cracks as a minor problem and i am just careful when driving around not to scrape on anything.
i don't know what version crawford cats i have but i am very happy with them as far as performance goes. fitment was also perfect when i installed the exhaust so i am not sure what causes the cracking on the welds of the cats.
i have dc headers, crawford cats, fuji y pipe and ti catback. i am really happy with this setup and will make repairs or mods as needed. not sure if the problem is specific to my particular brands and their fitment. i see the cracks as a minor problem and i am just careful when driving around not to scrape on anything.
#31
Originally Posted by ObZeZZed
The heads arent cracking, its the welds on the Crawford HF Cats and it has nothing to do with my driving as the current pair cracked during breakin of my new engine and tranny and with less than 500 miles on it I have been driving like a grandma to break it in properly.
#33
Thanks to all the threads about crawford cracking, I decided to go with the Kinetix cats as well. Order has been placed!
Also, could not find sufficient data to show that crawford performed better for the additional cost.
Also, could not find sufficient data to show that crawford performed better for the additional cost.
#34
You'll like the Kinetix, they are darn nice for the $. Make sure to bend the heat shields above them up a little, if you don't they tend to rattle on the cat and make an annoying sound.
Thanks,
Gary
Thanks,
Gary
Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
Thanks to all the threads about crawford cracking, I decided to go with the Kinetix cats as well. Order has been placed!
Also, could not find sufficient data to show that crawford performed better for the additional cost.
Also, could not find sufficient data to show that crawford performed better for the additional cost.
#35
I think I earlier said the crack was near the headers, its actually the weld on the Y pipe side of the cat and its always the passenger side cat that cracks. The weld is also very thin and tall which I believe to be the ultimate reason for cracking. Either way, they are now history and have been replaced with UT-R Resonated Test Pipes(Nice quality welds). WOW MY CAR IS LOUD. Never thought I would say this but from 2k-4k rpm it maybe almost too loud. I am getting used to it though and because I am breaking in a new engine and tranny I have been granny shifting. I like to run her around 3500-4000 rpm normally and it isnt as raspy and loud after 4k rpm so I figure once shes broken in the loudness wont be much of an issue but I will have to stay off the throttle when the poligs are around. Feels great sounds great all around, there is Rasp but it doesnt sound ultra crappy like I have heard on some other rides(not Zs though). Deinitely not for the meek or concervative types though. Very Very Agressive sounding, car pulls easier too but again I wont be able to give it a real butt dyno run till after 1500 miles so I got another 1000 miles to go.
#36
Originally Posted by ObZeZZed
I think I earlier said the crack was near the headers, its actually the weld on the Y pipe side of the cat and its always the passenger side cat that cracks. The weld is also very thin and tall which I believe to be the ultimate reason for cracking. Either way, they are now history and have been replaced with UT-R Resonated Test Pipes(Nice quality welds). WOW MY CAR IS LOUD. Never thought I would say this but from 2k-4k rpm it maybe almost too loud. I am getting used to it though and because I am breaking in a new engine and tranny I have been granny shifting. I like to run her around 3500-4000 rpm normally and it isnt as raspy and loud after 4k rpm so I figure once shes broken in the loudness wont be much of an issue but I will have to stay off the throttle when the poligs are around. Feels great sounds great all around, there is Rasp but it doesnt sound ultra crappy like I have heard on some other rides(not Zs though). Deinitely not for the meek or concervative types though. Very Very Agressive sounding, car pulls easier too but again I wont be able to give it a real butt dyno run till after 1500 miles so I got another 1000 miles to go.
#38
Originally Posted by ObZeZZed
I hope to have better luck with test pipes so far nobody has chimed in with a cracked test pipe so I will consider that to be good news.
#39
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Originally Posted by davidv
Kinetix High Flow Catalytic Converters. 7,000 miles and looking good (knock on wood).
As of right now, Crawford is not selling the cats because they are doing R&D on them. I have to admit that the Crawford cats are a perfect compliment in all aspects for the NISMO exhaust excluding the fact of the problems with cracking. I am working with Doug to find a solution, so far my cats have lasted and I currently have the new prototype on them, exactly the same, just different welds. Hopefully we will have this issue resolved and will be available for sale again. It would be ashame to discontinue these cats because they are a great mod and make any cat back exhaust sound and feel a lot better. I'll keep you guys updated. FYI, the only cracked cats weve seen are ones that are installed with the NISMO exhaust, we have had them installed on quite a few different setups, I.E; HKS, Stillen, GReddy,etc. It seems like exhausts that are true dual or use H pipes have no problems what so ever. If you have the NISMO exhaust, you can probably even change out to a different y pipe like the JIC or Tanabe and can avoid the cracking problems.