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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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Well, I installed my Borla TD this weekend. It was a bit more difficult than it should have been. The stock exhaust was pretty difficult to get off the hangers, but a bunch of grease helped.
The biggest issue I ran into was that after I installed the Borla, the H-pipes were about an inch+ too far apart from each other. I couldn't clamp the h pipes together. The way I resolved this was: There is a bracket that holds the cat pipes to the tranny. If you loosen the bolts at the cat pipes and use a pry bar to force the cats as inboard as possible, you can retighten the bolts to hold the cats in the new position. (yes, you need one person to hold the pry bar while another person tightens the bolt.)
That moved the h pipes almost an inch closer. Then I had a helper hold the h pipes even closer together while I clamped them, and everything is fine -- so far.
Just wondering if anyone had similar installation issues. Hope this helps.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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I sounds like you may have problems in the future with cracking since you forced the pipes into place. (i.e. no flex joints). You really should do it right and not "just make it work". The Borla exhaust should fit perfectly without having to pry it into place. I would remove it and start over being very careful that the pipes are in the right place and position. g/l
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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The H pipe came together perfectly, no issues of it being too far apart. Take a picture of your h pipe and the left and right pipes that are attached to the cats.

Borla have been known to mix up their packaing and give people two right sided pipes(even when the sitcker has the "L" on it).
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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It wasn't that I had to 'force' it into place. I think it was a tolerance stack-up with the vehicle (and possibly the Borla TD also). When I loosened the cat pipe nuts, there was a little slop so I could move the cats inboard and hold them there while I tightened the nuts back down. Once I did this, the h pipes fit a lot better.
Then I had a helper hold the h pipes while i tightened the clamp to make sure no exhaust leaks.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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you will def put to much stress on these. your best bet would be to just get the h pipe welded, as they're know to leak. mine fit w/no prob's at all. I would say to just give it another try.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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All I can say is welcome to your Borla exhaust.

There are so many write ups like this with people having issue with this system. There are others as well. For a company of their size and reputation, they should have done a better job.

With all my testing, and if you've read any of my threads or know me from other posts, or www.fastintentions.com, the Borla was one of my favorite systems. It needs tweaking and some welding to make it right though, and it has other issues in design as well...but overall once of the better systems out there, especially for the price.

Beware of drone though...

Rick
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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I'm replacing my Borla exhaust for just that reason.....fit issues. And....when going over big bumps the pipe hits the cross member under it since there are not enough hangers to keep the right side pipe in place. I've tried three different shops, no luck. If I had a place to work on it, and the time, I wouldn't mind giving the time investment, but I don't have that luxury....so it's going.....

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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Spartan1510
I'm replacing my Borla exhaust for just that reason.....fit issues. And....when going over big bumps the pipe hits the cross member under it since there are not enough hangers to keep the right side pipe in place. I've tried three different shops, no luck. If I had a place to work on it, and the time, I wouldn't mind giving the time investment, but I don't have that luxury....so it's going.....

I've had it on since sunday, and haven't noticed it hitting anything. I know I had very little clearance (about 1/4") to the rear sway bar (I think it was a sway bar). Is that the cross member yours is hitting? Can't a shop shorten the hanger by 1/2" or so, or move your exhaust hanger up on the vehicle? I kind of expected it to bang around over big bumps, but I haven't heard any noise so far...
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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Ya, it only bangs over big bumps now after some massaging with it. But thats still unacceptable.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 05:21 AM
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Guys - check out the Fast Intentions website for a system built right the first time. Let me know if you have any questions.

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 05:41 AM
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I got my borla installed professionally. Twice.

The first group of monkeys had the resonators in contact with the body and vibrating the whole car. It creaked over bumps and the tips sat crooked in the rear bumper.

Brought it to a real shop and they took it all apart and put it back in with skill and precision. Fits perfectly with no ill side effects. Cost $100 for no headaches.
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