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Old 11-29-2006, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel350
I dynoed my HKS and got about 5HP gain.
that's a horribly gain.. I've gotton pretty close to their claim, I think.. maybe 12whp ish
Old 11-29-2006, 10:40 PM
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me not a knockoff wouldn't even be a moral thing.. I'll be afraid it'll blow up on me. I've read this huge article about knockoff and their testing. majority of the knockoff lasted only a few months... these included, oilpans, intakes (bunch of crap got in the engine, amongst many others. I gladly fork out tons of $$ for authentic, for a peace of mind.
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Originally Posted by Cannysage
me not a knockoff wouldn't even be a moral thing.. I'll be afraid it'll blow up on me. I've read this huge article about knockoff and their testing. majority of the knockoff lasted only a few months... these included, oilpans, intakes (bunch of crap got in the engine, amongst many others. I gladly fork out tons of $$ for authentic, for a peace of mind.
+1
Old 11-30-2006, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Cannysage
that's a horribly gain.. I've gotton pretty close to their claim, I think.. maybe 12whp ish
Do you have a dyno sheet?
Old 11-30-2006, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
I dont even like how the HKS exhaust sounds. I'm sure this one doesn't sound any worse.
There you go again knocking down every other product but what's on your car. LOL

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Old 11-30-2006, 05:32 AM
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both the real thing and the knock off are the ugliest exhaust around, but it sounds awesome. looks aren't everything

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Old 11-30-2006, 05:56 AM
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Just out of curiosity what do you drive?
Old 11-30-2006, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NA350Z
Call me crazy, but I actually think its pretty awesome as well, and it friggin comes with test pipes. I still feel like its wrong though. I mean HKS went through R N D to develop it hence the cost I guess, its not just about paying for the name. I want to see a dyno for sure. They even went so far as to have the H pipe too WTF!!!
I don't think those are test pipes. Unless they have something listed I missed, those short pipes are just extenders to fit a G35 I believe.

Crazy direct ripoff of design. I would hope some HKS lawyers go get this guy.
Old 11-30-2006, 07:30 AM
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i love knockoffs i got a knock off exhaust and headers going on my car haha.
Old 11-30-2006, 08:17 AM
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To the people who said HKS is just a name, you're dead wrong. HKS uses quality parts, not bs materials.

It's like saying nismo is just a name, and megan racing headers are the same as nismos. Or even megan racing tp's are the same as the rest of them. Wrong again, it might look similar but I bet a million dollars the hks canisters are made of better material especially inside, and their resonators and welds are top notch.

This is not a front lip we're talking about where everybody makes a replica, this is a cat-back exhaust system, and comparing a no named brand to HKS is simply outrageous. Just like one of the members said, "if you can't afford HKS, then don't buy HKS". Plain and simple.
Old 11-30-2006, 08:20 AM
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Most people here that don't like knock-offs are either vendors or their minions. I have no issue with copies, and there is nothing illegal or even unethical, unless there are patent issues involved. It's called the American way. IMO, it fosters competition and lower prices. Two thing to remember, you get what you pay for, in most cases, and if it looks too good to be true, it usually is.
Old 11-30-2006, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsex On 19s
Hate on me all u want, but I personally like it.. An exhaust is an exhaust, with HKS, ur mainly buying the name.. if this one does gives the same amount of whp and the parts used are of good quality.. then why not, id buy it..
+1 if I didnt just get my G200 id consider it..

then i could throw a big HKS sticker on my windshield!!!!!
Old 11-30-2006, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by undrgnd
Most people here that don't like knock-offs are either vendors or their minions. I have no issue with copies, and there is nothing illegal or even unethical, unless there are patent issues involved. It's called the American way. IMO, it fosters competition and lower prices. Two thing to remember, you get what you pay for, in most cases, and if it looks too good to be true, it usually is.

I actually have real and knock off parts on my car. Yes some knock offs are okay but when it comes to exhaust/engine components, you do not want a cheap part. Engine and exhaust components work under extreme conditions and temperatures.

I had megan racing tp's and 2 days into it the resonators rattled. So therefore I have proof that knock offs suck when it comes to quality and workmanship in exhaust parts.

The HKS mufflers aren't cheap, please go on their site and check the prices for the universal mufflers. Compare those to APC junk and tell me they are the same, .
Old 11-30-2006, 08:32 AM
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^ No arguments here. Knock-offs are usually inferior. I stay away from them myself. For non-critical applications, and where the investment is small, I might give it a try though. I was alluding to copies by reputable companies that have the resources to do it right, and where reputation is at stake.
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i actually like the way this one sounds. i'm not too big a fan of the way the hks one sounds either.

btw, i've always wondered what thos chambers are connected to the actual muffler? anyone know?
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Originally Posted by dvo
i actually like the way this one sounds. i'm not too big a fan of the way the hks one sounds either.

btw, i've always wondered what thos chambers are connected to the actual muffler? anyone know?
Pressure chambers, they reduce back pressure a bit and lower the noise level.
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Originally Posted by undrgnd
^ No arguments here. Knock-offs are usually inferior. I stay away from them myself. For non-critical applications, and where the investment is small, I might give it a try though. I was alluding to copies by reputable companies that have the resources to do it right, and where reputation is at stake.
Okay think of it like this, you buy a knoco-off set for 700, the welds break and the mufflers crack. So you buy another one for 700, thats 1400 the price of the HKS.

Isn't it worth it to just buy the HKS when you save up another 700? lol
Old 11-30-2006, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
Okay think of it like this, you buy a knoco-off set for 700, the welds break and the mufflers crack. So you buy another one for 700, thats 1400 the price of the HKS.

Isn't it worth it to just buy the HKS when you save up another 700? lol
I don't know about you, but $700 is nowhere near what I would call a small investment. I would also consider what it costs in time and money to replace a part, hence why I went with the Crawford headers.
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Originally Posted by undrgnd
I don't know about you, but $700 is nowhere near what I would call a small investment. I would also consider what it costs in time and money to replace a part, hence why I went with the Crawford headers.
You have a REVUP right? Have you dynoed your car? You have a great list of mods.
Old 11-30-2006, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
You have a REVUP right? Have you dynoed your car? You have a great list of mods.
It is a revup. No, I never dynoed it, but I can tell I have made some good gains over stock. It has leaned out big time, I have the cleanest tailpipes and get the best fuel mileage in the state. Waiting on the Cobb AccessPort for tuning.


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