Cold Air Intake...
About to purchase a 2006 enthusiast and was looking to get the nismo cold air intake. What do you guys think about this system or is there a better after market system to get? Plus if I install an after market system will it void my warranty? Thanks!
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Q. What's the best intake to buy?
A. There is no "best" intake. They all offer features and advantages and all have disadvantages. Some have small proven gains (+5hp), others have questionable gains (+20). Sorry but you have to do the research yourself and decide what meets your budget & expectations. Some of the more popular ones are the Jim Wolf Tech. PopCharger; NISMO CAI, Injen CAI, AEM CAI, K&N Typhoon CAI. A cheap alternative is a high flow air filter like the K&N filter.
: What are some advantages and disadvantages of different intakes? Should I go for a cold air intake (CAI), a JWT popcharger, or any other suggestions?
A:
Stock intake:
pro: sucks COLD air from outside your engine bay, has low pressure losses, OEM paper filter is very good making this the cleanest intake for your engine
con: once you start flowing a lot more air in general, stock intake box may start to be restrictive.
JWT popcharger:
pro: can suck higher volume of air compared to stock
con: sucks hot air from engine bay and heat shield does not really help all that much in preventing it from sucking hot air. People have reported a problem stalling when travelling at high speeds and putting the car in neutral with this intake.
Long tube CAI such as Nismo, Injen:
pro: sucks colder air, (note...so does stock)
con: More pressure losses due to a longer tube. This is a fact of life folks. More bends and longer tube = more pressure losses. In fact, long tube CAI's have even shown horsepower LOSSES on a dyno.
K&N typhoon (short tube like stock intake / JWT popcharger, but includes a front-mounted scoop):
pro: cone-type filter should suck a higher volume of air compared to stock. attempts to offset JWT popcharger's hot-air syndrome by incorporating a cold air scoop.
con: hard to prove that the scoop is actually effective
HKS Racing Suction
pro: Shorter tube like stock, higher flowing filter
con: People have stated that the install is difficult, price is rather high for what seems like a minimal improvement over JWT popcharger
Q: Will mods void my warranty?
A: A dealership cannot "void the warranty on the whole car" just because you have a JWT popcharger or aftermarket wheels. If they are trying to deny warranty service, they must prove that the mod caused the problem.
Of course, adding a turbo kit (for example) can put a lot of stress on the engine itself, as well as to the drivetrain. Don't be surprised if the dealer refuses to perform warranty service on a heavily modified car, that's just common sense.
This is all part of the "Magnuson-Moss" Warranty Act, which protects consumers against shady business practice by:
Quote:
The Act makes it easier for purchasers to sue for breach of warranty by making breach of warranty a violation of federal law, and by allowing consumers to recover court costs and reasonable attorneys' fees.
(In short, if they try to void your warranty and your mod could not have caused the problem, sue the bastards...)
More info can be found here
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...s/warranty.htm
THAT SAID, if your mod *did* cause the problem, then it's your problem and you have to deal with it.
https://my350z.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=334
Q. What's the best intake to buy?
A. There is no "best" intake. They all offer features and advantages and all have disadvantages. Some have small proven gains (+5hp), others have questionable gains (+20). Sorry but you have to do the research yourself and decide what meets your budget & expectations. Some of the more popular ones are the Jim Wolf Tech. PopCharger; NISMO CAI, Injen CAI, AEM CAI, K&N Typhoon CAI. A cheap alternative is a high flow air filter like the K&N filter.
: What are some advantages and disadvantages of different intakes? Should I go for a cold air intake (CAI), a JWT popcharger, or any other suggestions?
A:
Stock intake:
pro: sucks COLD air from outside your engine bay, has low pressure losses, OEM paper filter is very good making this the cleanest intake for your engine
con: once you start flowing a lot more air in general, stock intake box may start to be restrictive.
JWT popcharger:
pro: can suck higher volume of air compared to stock
con: sucks hot air from engine bay and heat shield does not really help all that much in preventing it from sucking hot air. People have reported a problem stalling when travelling at high speeds and putting the car in neutral with this intake.
Long tube CAI such as Nismo, Injen:
pro: sucks colder air, (note...so does stock)
con: More pressure losses due to a longer tube. This is a fact of life folks. More bends and longer tube = more pressure losses. In fact, long tube CAI's have even shown horsepower LOSSES on a dyno.
K&N typhoon (short tube like stock intake / JWT popcharger, but includes a front-mounted scoop):
pro: cone-type filter should suck a higher volume of air compared to stock. attempts to offset JWT popcharger's hot-air syndrome by incorporating a cold air scoop.
con: hard to prove that the scoop is actually effective
HKS Racing Suction
pro: Shorter tube like stock, higher flowing filter
con: People have stated that the install is difficult, price is rather high for what seems like a minimal improvement over JWT popcharger
Q: Will mods void my warranty?
A: A dealership cannot "void the warranty on the whole car" just because you have a JWT popcharger or aftermarket wheels. If they are trying to deny warranty service, they must prove that the mod caused the problem.
Of course, adding a turbo kit (for example) can put a lot of stress on the engine itself, as well as to the drivetrain. Don't be surprised if the dealer refuses to perform warranty service on a heavily modified car, that's just common sense.
This is all part of the "Magnuson-Moss" Warranty Act, which protects consumers against shady business practice by:
Quote:
The Act makes it easier for purchasers to sue for breach of warranty by making breach of warranty a violation of federal law, and by allowing consumers to recover court costs and reasonable attorneys' fees.
(In short, if they try to void your warranty and your mod could not have caused the problem, sue the bastards...)
More info can be found here
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...s/warranty.htm
THAT SAID, if your mod *did* cause the problem, then it's your problem and you have to deal with it.
Last edited by zand02max; Dec 9, 2006 at 09:07 PM.
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Originally Posted by zand02max
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=197329
Q. What's the best intake to buy?
A. There is no "best" intake. They all offer features and advantages and all have disadvantages. Some have small proven gains (+5hp), others have questionable gains (+20). Sorry but you have to do the research yourself and decide what meets your budget & expectations. Some of the more popular ones are the Jim Wolf Tech. PopCharger; NISMO CAI, Injen CAI, AEM CAI, K&N Typhoon CAI. A cheap alternative is a high flow air filter like the K&N filter.
: What are some advantages and disadvantages of different intakes? Should I go for a cold air intake (CAI), a JWT popcharger, or any other suggestions?
A:
Stock intake:
pro: sucks COLD air from outside your engine bay, has low pressure losses, OEM paper filter is very good making this the cleanest intake for your engine
con: once you start flowing a lot more air in general, stock intake box may start to be restrictive.
JWT popcharger:
pro: can suck higher volume of air compared to stock
con: sucks hot air from engine bay and heat shield does not really help all that much in preventing it from sucking hot air. People have reported a problem stalling when travelling at high speeds and putting the car in neutral with this intake.
Long tube CAI such as Nismo, Injen:
pro: sucks colder air, (note...so does stock)
con: More pressure losses due to a longer tube. This is a fact of life folks. More bends and longer tube = more pressure losses. In fact, long tube CAI's have even shown horsepower LOSSES on a dyno.
K&N typhoon (short tube like stock intake / JWT popcharger, but includes a front-mounted scoop):
pro: cone-type filter should suck a higher volume of air compared to stock. attempts to offset JWT popcharger's hot-air syndrome by incorporating a cold air scoop.
con: hard to prove that the scoop is actually effective
HKS Racing Suction
pro: Shorter tube like stock, higher flowing filter
con: People have stated that the install is difficult, price is rather high for what seems like a minimal improvement over JWT popcharger
Q. What's the best intake to buy?
A. There is no "best" intake. They all offer features and advantages and all have disadvantages. Some have small proven gains (+5hp), others have questionable gains (+20). Sorry but you have to do the research yourself and decide what meets your budget & expectations. Some of the more popular ones are the Jim Wolf Tech. PopCharger; NISMO CAI, Injen CAI, AEM CAI, K&N Typhoon CAI. A cheap alternative is a high flow air filter like the K&N filter.
: What are some advantages and disadvantages of different intakes? Should I go for a cold air intake (CAI), a JWT popcharger, or any other suggestions?
A:
Stock intake:
pro: sucks COLD air from outside your engine bay, has low pressure losses, OEM paper filter is very good making this the cleanest intake for your engine
con: once you start flowing a lot more air in general, stock intake box may start to be restrictive.
JWT popcharger:
pro: can suck higher volume of air compared to stock
con: sucks hot air from engine bay and heat shield does not really help all that much in preventing it from sucking hot air. People have reported a problem stalling when travelling at high speeds and putting the car in neutral with this intake.
Long tube CAI such as Nismo, Injen:
pro: sucks colder air, (note...so does stock)
con: More pressure losses due to a longer tube. This is a fact of life folks. More bends and longer tube = more pressure losses. In fact, long tube CAI's have even shown horsepower LOSSES on a dyno.
K&N typhoon (short tube like stock intake / JWT popcharger, but includes a front-mounted scoop):
pro: cone-type filter should suck a higher volume of air compared to stock. attempts to offset JWT popcharger's hot-air syndrome by incorporating a cold air scoop.
con: hard to prove that the scoop is actually effective
HKS Racing Suction
pro: Shorter tube like stock, higher flowing filter
con: People have stated that the install is difficult, price is rather high for what seems like a minimal improvement over JWT popcharger
Q: Will mods void my warranty?
A: A dealership cannot "void the warranty on the whole car" just because you have a JWT popcharger or aftermarket wheels. If they are trying to deny warranty service, they must prove that the mod caused the problem.
Of course, adding a turbo kit (for example) can put a lot of stress on the engine itself, as well as to the drivetrain. Don't be surprised if the dealer refuses to perform warranty service on a heavily modified car, that's just common sense.
This is all part of the "Magnuson-Moss" Warranty Act, which protects consumers against shady business practice by:
Quote:
The Act makes it easier for purchasers to sue for breach of warranty by making breach of warranty a violation of federal law, and by allowing consumers to recover court costs and reasonable attorneys' fees.
(In short, if they try to void your warranty and your mod could not have caused the problem, sue the bastards...)
More info can be found here
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...s/warranty.htm
THAT SAID, if your mod *did* cause the problem, then it's your problem and you have to deal with it.
A: A dealership cannot "void the warranty on the whole car" just because you have a JWT popcharger or aftermarket wheels. If they are trying to deny warranty service, they must prove that the mod caused the problem.
Of course, adding a turbo kit (for example) can put a lot of stress on the engine itself, as well as to the drivetrain. Don't be surprised if the dealer refuses to perform warranty service on a heavily modified car, that's just common sense.
This is all part of the "Magnuson-Moss" Warranty Act, which protects consumers against shady business practice by:
Quote:
The Act makes it easier for purchasers to sue for breach of warranty by making breach of warranty a violation of federal law, and by allowing consumers to recover court costs and reasonable attorneys' fees.
(In short, if they try to void your warranty and your mod could not have caused the problem, sue the bastards...)
More info can be found here
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...s/warranty.htm
THAT SAID, if your mod *did* cause the problem, then it's your problem and you have to deal with it.
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Originally Posted by z-u-later
R U guys aware that you're making recommendations to someone who does not have the keys to his Z yet?
alright brotha im here for ya , we all arnt experts from the start, so let me chime in some postive info. If ur getting a 06 revup Z these Zs have 300hp i would suggest not to go with any kind of cai OR popcharger etc. Reason, The z is not a civic not a sports compact, its already highly tuned from the factory . The air box on the 06s are near perfect they have velocity stacks already and a more closed air design then the previous gens. The plastics is great at defending against heat soak thats why they use plastic instead of alum. And overall all that would be needed is a varis intake slot for direct air and u have the best intake for the revups. IF u search u will see what the varis is. I believe a knn filter is also better for flow since the paper one from nissan doesnt look all free flowing as the knn does. Now if u have a previos model in mind then i would say do the popcharger if u want. There are no velocity stacks on the previous gens as on the revups. So i believe it wouldnt be bad for a popcharger to be used. However i still prefer the varis with a direct air tube over anything in the Z but ,thats my opinion. All in all , get a knn filter and use the money else were man, these cars have excellent intake designes the plenum needs modding and other areas before the intake brotha.
Originally Posted by RBlover69
alright brotha im here for ya , we all arnt experts from the start, so let me chime in some postive info. If ur getting a 06 revup Z these Zs have 300hp i would suggest not to go with any kind of cai OR popcharger etc. Reason, The z is not a civic not a sports compact, its already highly tuned from the factory . The air box on the 06s are near perfect they have velocity stacks already and a more closed air design then the previous gens. The plastics is great at defending against heat soak thats why they use plastic instead of alum. And overall all that would be needed is a varis intake slot for direct air and u have the best intake for the revups. IF u search u will see what the varis is. I believe a knn filter is also better for flow since the paper one from nissan doesnt look all free flowing as the knn does. Now if u have a previos model in mind then i would say do the popcharger if u want. There are no velocity stacks on the previous gens as on the revups. So i believe it wouldnt be bad for a popcharger to be used. However i still prefer the varis with a direct air tube over anything in the Z but ,thats my opinion. All in all , get a knn filter and use the money else were man, these cars have excellent intake designes the plenum needs modding and other areas before the intake brotha.
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