New ARC True Dual Ti. Exhaust Pics!
04-05-2007 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnylaw
What about the other arc exhaust listed on that link that aren't true dual? These are titanium as well? --those prices 2-3k seem consistant w/ the price for the amuse. CAn you please explain differnece b/w axle back and y back? What is included for those arc exhausts that are not true dual?
Y Pipe Back - Piping from front pipe(y pipe) back. Mid pipe and muffler only.
Yes theyre titanium as well.
04-05-2007 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AFitchTLS
So the True Dual piping are 2.36220472 inches and the Tips are 3.50393701 inches..... The pricing is ridiculous compared to the Amuse. How come they didn't make a 3 inch + piping with 4-5 inch tips??
04-05-2007 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy@Performance
All the specs can be found here. The $6800 price tag is MSRP, come on, who pays MSRP for anything these days. Not a single thing that we sell is ever sold at full MSRP price. There is a forum member that ordered one and should be getting it soon. Dont know if he wants me to say who it is though, LOL.
For the guys that think the price is too high; consider the fact that titanium is not a cheap metal. For the most part, titanium is a very complex material that is difficult to work with. Welding, bending, etc, titanium is not an easy thing to do. Not just the titanium itself, youre also paying for the superb craftsmanship of ARC. Any ARC titanium product has welds to perfection. Its the details you have to appreciate. Its no wonder why NISMO Japan uses all ARC products for anything titanium as well as coolers.
For the guys that think the price is too high; consider the fact that titanium is not a cheap metal. For the most part, titanium is a very complex material that is difficult to work with. Welding, bending, etc, titanium is not an easy thing to do. Not just the titanium itself, youre also paying for the superb craftsmanship of ARC. Any ARC titanium product has welds to perfection. Its the details you have to appreciate. Its no wonder why NISMO Japan uses all ARC products for anything titanium as well as coolers.
Also, i noticed the ARC diff cooler on the RS Concept Z. That thing is so sick, i would love to have that car.
04-05-2007 | 01:12 PM
#45
Originally Posted by kwiker
How about you give me half the money and i let you kick me in the junk. (i'll have a cup on but you don't need to know that, you still get the feel of kicking a man in the nuts and i get a cool 3k. BTW....how could you want to do that...even if i was in a street fight i don't think i would be able to kick another guy there....i could give him a knee to the face or something like that but never a blow to that area.
This was one of the greatest propositions offered up to Clark W. Griswald... he didn't take the guy up on it and promptly lost all his money. Vegas Baby!
04-05-2007 | 01:20 PM
#47
Originally Posted by AFitchTLS
So the True Dual piping are 2.36220472 inches and the Tips are 3.50393701 inches..... The pricing is ridiculous compared to the Amuse. How come they didn't make a 3 inch + piping with 4-5 inch tips??
04-05-2007 | 01:23 PM
#48
Originally Posted by Andy@Performance
All the specs can be found here. The $6800 price tag is MSRP, come on, who pays MSRP for anything these days. Not a single thing that we sell is ever sold at full MSRP price. There is a forum member that ordered one and should be getting it soon. Dont know if he wants me to say who it is though, LOL.
For the guys that think the price is too high; consider the fact that titanium is not a cheap metal. For the most part, titanium is a very complex material that is difficult to work with. Welding, bending, etc, titanium is not an easy thing to do. Not just the titanium itself, youre also paying for the superb craftsmanship of ARC. Any ARC titanium product has welds to perfection. Its the details you have to appreciate. Its no wonder why NISMO Japan uses all ARC products for anything titanium as well as coolers.
For the guys that think the price is too high; consider the fact that titanium is not a cheap metal. For the most part, titanium is a very complex material that is difficult to work with. Welding, bending, etc, titanium is not an easy thing to do. Not just the titanium itself, youre also paying for the superb craftsmanship of ARC. Any ARC titanium product has welds to perfection. Its the details you have to appreciate. Its no wonder why NISMO Japan uses all ARC products for anything titanium as well as coolers.
they didn't even weld the entire seam. Sure it may not need to be but for $6000+ they better weld the entire portion inside and out... Titanium isn't THAT expensive...
04-05-2007 | 01:28 PM
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i can tell u titanium is not expensive, nor is it that hard to weld in an industrial setting. at home its expensive, but if you sell titanium exhaust all day, its not that expensive to make.
I can say that exhaust at most would cost 2200 dollars to produce. Also note that it doesnt have a cross over pipe, so it won't sound all that fantastic with straight pipes. Nice looking exhuast.
Also, those welds suck ***, even for titanium welding. Amuse has excellent welding.
Also, thats not inconel and i hope it isnt. Inconel is heavy, althought it has a VERY high thermal coefficient and resists expansion well, its a poor choice for post cat exhaust piping. Stainless steel is still one of the best options.
I can say that exhaust at most would cost 2200 dollars to produce. Also note that it doesnt have a cross over pipe, so it won't sound all that fantastic with straight pipes. Nice looking exhuast.
Also, those welds suck ***, even for titanium welding. Amuse has excellent welding.
Also, thats not inconel and i hope it isnt. Inconel is heavy, althought it has a VERY high thermal coefficient and resists expansion well, its a poor choice for post cat exhaust piping. Stainless steel is still one of the best options.
04-05-2007 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Not to be a d!ck here but welds to perfection? Unless its a lighting illusion in this picture.........thedidn't even weld the entire seam. Sure it may not need to be but for $6000+ they better weld the entire portion inside and out... Titanium isn't THAT expensive...
edit...just looked again and i guess you are talking about where the pipe meets the flange. I am sure it is welded entirely...it is just that the bead is so small you can't tell it is there, Titanium is bad a$$ like that.
edit 2...each time i look at it i am starting to wonder...just forget i posted this, i don't know what i'm talking about anyhow.
Last edited by kwiker; 04-05-2007 at 01:40 PM.
04-05-2007 | 01:46 PM
#54
Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Not to be a d!ck here but welds to perfection? Unless its a lighting illusion in this picture they didn't even weld the entire seam. Sure it may not need to be but for $6000+ they better weld the entire portion inside and out... Titanium isn't THAT expensive...
they didn't even weld the entire seam. Sure it may not need to be but for $6000+ they better weld the entire portion inside and out... Titanium isn't THAT expensive...Just cause some people can't afford it they have to talk **** about it
All Nismo Titanium and cooling parts is made by ARC, the car you seen is Shadow Motorsport's car in Japan (JGTC500 Driver for Nismo) personal car. ARC don't want to make an exhaust for the Z market cause they know that guys that own Z can't really afford this but they made one for Shadow for prototype.
04-05-2007 | 01:51 PM
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How much for the ARC badge so I can weld it on my ebay HKS exhaust 
Nice looking exhuast and I think everyone has already said it. Thats a lot of mula-la...
Nice looking exhuast and I think everyone has already said it. Thats a lot of mula-la...
04-05-2007 | 01:53 PM
#58
Oh if I really want it I can afford it, and I'm sure most members here can come up with the money. The question here is will paying $6800 for an exhaust no matter how great the material and quality really worth it? I honestly can think of a long list of things I would rather put $6800 towards.
04-05-2007 | 01:53 PM
#59
Originally Posted by blueper4mancez
even a 911 turbo exhaust wont cost this much .
Full Titanium Exhaust with Cat Delete cost over 7800.00 (for 2 feet of piping and muffler) by Kreissieg..
