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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzardmountain
I think the cost is a moot point.....we (Z community) can't afford this exhaust anyway.
Yeah I hear ya on that one...that was about as bone head of a comment as you can get...especially coming from a distributor.

There are PLENTY of people here who can afford a $6000 widget (name your product), and plenty of people here who have invested 2, 3, 4, 5 times + that into their cars (and who own other modded cars on top of it!). Not the point though in my eyes. At the price point this thing reflects, you are paying for one thing...exclusivity. No one is ever going to tell me, nor convince me that it's of a "higher" quality than any other exhaust on the market (titanium or non), or that it performs any better or lasts any longer. But it is a rare piece, and at the end of the day, the customer knows the price and if it makes them happy to buy it then so be it. One of my customers has this very exhaust on their own car in fact. He knows it was an insane amount to pay but he liked it, and wanted something unique, had the $ to afford it, so what the hell...he got it

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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
Yeah I hear ya on that one...that was about as bone head of a comment as you can get...especially coming from a distributor.

+1 Not exactly the attitude I want my people to be having when representing my brand/company/product. Not smart at all.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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ok my bad for stating that.. what I mean to say is 90% of the people out there wouldn't event spend $2000 on an exhaust alone $6000.00, this is what I shouldn't said but ohh well too late to change it huh.. lol

like Z1 said this exhaust is for the person that really want something no one have, bling factor.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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Here's Shadow Sports Design's site..
http://www.shadow-sd.com/index.html
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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I want that rear bumper bad....

Nice link.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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Yeah If I was going to keep my Z for more then a year I want to switch kit too lol...
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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Nice Exhaust. Too expensive for my blood.
I don't know why everyone is all over this even if arc change the price on the exhaust no one is going to buy it. I can see why he said that but could of use a better way of saying it.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AFitchTLS
Dude, you need to get the sand out of your vagina and get your panties out of the wad for real. There's lots of people that can afford it if they want too, but for an exhaust marked at that price is just stupid for our cars with the specs that's listed. Wow, it's full titanium true dual, big f*cking whoop. Stop acting like a know it all wannabe to compensate for your small stature, just cause someone comes here with their own opinion which is their own right.

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

So, til further specs, info, gains, pics, vids, sound clips, non-prototypes, etc... etc... comes out, you're damn right everyone will be speculating about this product regardless if ARC makes, even though they do come out with quality JDM products. If you don't like what I have to say or others, I could give a rats ***, so stuff it in your corn pipe and smoke on that for a lil while.....cause i'm not in the mood to hear it, just like others don't want to hear your drivel. All we need to hear from is the OP.
wow for someone that don't want to hear what "his drive is" you sure like read up on what he have to say

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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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^^^What??

Engrish please.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bizzyboyZ
Nice Exhaust. Too expensive for my blood.
I don't know why everyone is all over this even if arc change the price on the exhaust no one is going to buy it. I can see why he said that but could of use a better way of saying it.
If it was 2k i would be all over it.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kwiker
If it was 2k i would be all over it.
for 2K i think arc would only sell you 1 muffler
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kwiker
If it was 2k i would be all over it.

+1 and even if it was between 2-3k, instead of double that price and more. You're better off getting a nice F/I setup.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bizzyboyZ
wow for someone that don't want to hear what "his drive is" you sure like read up on what he have to say
Originally Posted by buzzardmountain
^^^What??

Engrish please.
I think he's saying, for me not wanting to hear "his drivel", just like others... is that I did read everything that he said. Which is true, but that's only cause I just copied/pasted all of his posts, so in a sense yea I did read it. Doesn't mean I agree, which I think I made it clear that I don't.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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ok well let do this I ask ARC and they said to find out what is reasonable pricing, if is around 2k they can't do full titanium maybe Stainless and titanium.

please reply with a reasonable pricing don't try to say 1k lol..
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Looks good, ARC is always more expensive, its just the quality and brand, I wonder if it is more expensive over here than it is over there, sorta like Trust instead of Greddy.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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Default I will REVEAL who order the ARC exhaust.

It was me and I am ready



Cesar

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I will write a review, after is on the car tested and Dyno it.

1. First I will dyno my 2006.5 with the OEM exhaust.
2. Second I will dyno the car with ARC True dual.
3 Third the car will be Dyno with the Power Enterprise TT and the ARC no CATS.

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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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^ Just get a video. Ive never heard a titanium exhaust lol. I hope you enjoy it, and like Z1 said, its what you want, so you get it :-D Hope you have some lube :-P
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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Is the grade of titanium any higher then the grades that most competitors use? Even at a 50% profit from manufacturing plant to consumer... I still don't understand how a company can charge that much for an exhaust. It is not like a set of VOLK wheels or BREMBO brakes where the tolerance and specs are MUCH tighter meaning higher quality engineering required. I can understand why they would charge that much. An exhaust system is literally a bunch of bent tubes with flanges and hangers. If the hangers are welded 1/8 of an inch off... who cares noone will notice. Try having that kind of mess up on a wheel or brake kit. A kries-sieg valve tronic exhaust goes for roughly 6K. If you think ARC exhausts are high quality... look at those. Those also have a valve tronic system essentialy giving you two exhaust systems in one. I am a lover of high quality products... otherwise I would be using the copy cat crap parts, or replica garbage kits. This though seams a little too much wanted profit from the manufacturer. May I ask what the warranty is for the ARC exhaust?
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Volk350Z
ok well let do this I ask ARC and they said to find out what is reasonable pricing, if is around 2k they can't do full titanium maybe Stainless and titanium.

please reply with a reasonable pricing don't try to say 1k lol..

I can tell you right now.. if people are spending 1400-1500 for the super quality exhausts out right now, you set a price of 1800-2000 you will have much more business. Six thousand is just really... out of control.
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