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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
alot of people actually.

and that isn't a accurate statement either... which you have to stop with that...
That is stupid, low end torque is nice, but why improve the area the car doesn't need help with? The overall powerband is fatter, but I wouldn't pay for a poorer top end (though I will admit the car overall is quicker)
Old Nov 12, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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guess a difference in preference?

you want great topend, you buy an S2k

you want grunt and useability, you get a Z

a broad powerband is inherently more useful and makes for a quicker car than a narrow powerband, high revving engine. the revup had a deficiency that people noticed, making the engine slower, though rated high because of the increased disparity between peak outputs though the DE was 'fatter' under the curve.

the idea of the mrev2 was to provide some mid range grunt that was lacking while keeping the technological advancement of the higher redline and shifted powerband to make the engine stronger all around.

at least that is my take; you get the best parts of the DE with the best parts of the RevUp
Old Nov 12, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
guess a difference in preference?

you want great topend, you buy an S2k

you want grunt and useability, you get a Z

a broad powerband is inherently more useful and makes for a quicker car than a narrow powerband, high revving engine. the revup had a deficiency that people noticed, making the engine slower, though rated high because of the increased disparity between peak outputs though the DE was 'fatter' under the curve.

the idea of the mrev2 was to provide some mid range grunt that was lacking while keeping the technological advancement of the higher redline and shifted powerband to make the engine stronger all around.

at least that is my take; you get the best parts of the DE with the best parts of the RevUp
Rev up was slower? That is news to me. It may feel slower due to less low end power, But I highly doubt it is a slower car. I have no doubt the Rev Up is a better motor than the DE. Period.
Old Nov 12, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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your opinion. I like my DE

also, this is based on drag times and dyno sheets. (and ~cough~ streetraceswithrevupowners~cough~)

it was not shown to me in my time on these boards that the revup was a superior engine in terms of overall power output. superior at losing oil, sure, but that is about it.
Old Nov 12, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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I'll look into it. I'm just into research.
Old Nov 12, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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*laughs* I love how they cut off the Graph right were the 5/16's Makes peak power, while we all can see the 1/2 inch/Crawford Gaining. At redline, I'd imagine there would be a greater difference.

And I didn't use the word "significant" until now.
If you are implying I modified the graphs or data in any way, that's not true.

The data shown is exactly what came out of the dyno machine. This same data was offered to all the contestants by Sport Z Magazine (now Nissan Sport Magazine).

Besides, there are two very big and very obvious reasons why you should automatically know the plots are 100% true.

1) If anything was falsified, you can bet the other companies would raise holy hell about it and would (rightfully) be screaming all over the forums about it.

2) All the results have been published in Sport Z Magazine. Any one can easily cross check the results as shown in the magazine. And I'm sure that has already been done by many, many different people.

There were also about a dozen independant witnesses at the dyno shootout. They also frequent this forum.

The data shown is what actually happened on the dyno and is verifiable through multiple independant sources.

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As for MREV2 with the 5/16" spacer on a REVUP engine, the average power per gear is higher no matter what gear you are in or what RPM you shift at.

To date, MREV2 is the most effective bolt-on short of nitrous or FI.

The only other mod that may have a chance of outperforming the MREV2/spacer combo is the Cosworth plenum. And we will only know if/when its actually released for independant dynos.
Old Nov 12, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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No Tony, I don't think you Doctored those photos, as I'm well aware of were they came from.
Old Nov 12, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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Right on.

Maybe I didn't understant what you wrote?...
Old Nov 12, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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Hydrazine:

did you ever test out any lower plenum replacements? or modify/polish/port them at all?

I always hear the engine guys talking about that being a problem area and wondered if you had tried anything.
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 01:09 AM
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question answered by davidv

if you guys wish to have another discussion please start another thread
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