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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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how much difference between hfc's and test pipes is there in power? with the test pipes it makes the car have a more raspy (honda) sound and with hfc's it still has a good tone, is that correct? also, if i got 3'' test pipes and 3" exhaust isnt that not enough back preasure or something for the car (im not a mechanic and i know only a little bit about motors) im debating between hfc's and test pipes and exhaust size, whats worked the best for everyone? any info helps, thanks
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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https://my350z.com/forum/2003-2009-nissan-350z/197329-the-top-100-common-questions.html

there might be some info regarding your questions in it
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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i have read that before... i want proven facts and peoples knowledge and dyno sheets if they have them and i dont want to go buy 8 different sets of everything to see what does the best i want some info from people that have these things already and an 07 at that... i have already been in the HR section and there isnt too much there...
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If you are NA, not much... I remember some dynos from the FastIntentions folks comparing their test pipes to hfc and they claimed 2-3 rwhp difference.

If you are turbo'd, huge difference. I know my boost was limited to 12 psi and about 420 whp with hfc (curve went to crap after 12 psi) and that shot up to a beautiful curve at 14 psi and 480+ just with the switch to test pipes.

IMO, test pipes suck though because of the fuel vapor smell. If you don't have a garage, then no big deal. If you park inside a garage, I would not recommend test pipes. Just getting out of your car will impregnate your clothes with fuel vapor - yuck.

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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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damn, i wish i had the money for that right now... i gotta start with the small stuff for now... but yeah is bigger better? by that i mean bigger exhaust, i know it has more flow but since there is such low back pressure doesnt that mess up the motor?
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Originally Posted by robertsowka
i have read that before... i want proven facts and peoples knowledge and dyno sheets if they have them and i dont want to go buy 8 different sets of everything to see what does the best i want some info from people that have these things already and an 07 at that... i have already been in the HR section and there isnt too much there...
Members are experimenting with the VQ35HR motor to see what works and what does not. Want a good direction for performance? I would do what this driver has done: https://my350z.com/forum/drag/317094-finally-hit-12-s.html.
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Originally Posted by robertsowka
i have read that before... i want proven facts and peoples knowledge and dyno sheets if they have them and i dont want to go buy 8 different sets of everything to see what does the best i want some info from people that have these things already and an 07 at that... i have already been in the HR section and there isnt too much there...
Good for you, stand your ground. I have asked the same questions here and usually get the same smart a s s answers. This is about the least technical forum on the internet. I think it is because of the average fast and furious age of the owners here. One would think that the tuners would chime in just to boost their own knowledge.
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Originally Posted by robertsowka
how much difference between hfc's and test pipes is there in power?

none you would notice
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Is the smell of the TPs really that bad?
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Arnold K.
Is the smell of the TPs really that bad?
if you like the smell of raw exhaust its wonderful

if you dont, get cats
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Arnold K.
Is the smell of the TPs really that bad?
it's smells just like traffic.
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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TP's just aren't worth the $10k+ price tag...
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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IMO, test pipes suck though because of the fuel vapor smell. If you don't have a garage, then no big deal. If you park inside a garage, I would not recommend test pipes. Just getting out of your car will impregnate your clothes with fuel vapor - yuck.

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+1 on that. Had one on my wrx, will never do again because of that.
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I love my test pipes and will be getting another set here shortly, I am looking into crawford headers and test pipes.
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i had helix test pipes and they rattled horribly to the point that i took them off....i wanna get HFC's and anyone that has them do u get the rasp and rattle when ur coasting or downshifting like i had with my testpipes?????????
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I was in the same boat as you, except I have done alot of research on them for 1+ years. I have decided on Resonated Test Pipes; a Fast Intentions exhaust paired with Fast Intentions Resonated Test Pipes = . No rasp whatsoever. It all depends on the exhaust itself & quality of the TP's & resonators...some will produce more rasp then others.

The only thing that worries me is the smell plus the $1,500 dollar fine for removing cats thanks to our beloved California Air Resources Board (CARB).

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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by robertsowka
but yeah is bigger better? by that i mean bigger exhaust, i know it has more flow but since there is such low back pressure doesnt that mess up the motor?
I wouldnt say it would mess up the motor but It probably isnt a good idea. If your askin about sound and raspyness of test pipes I definitely wouldn't recommend a 3'' exhaust unless you are planning on going FI in the close future. 3'' exhaust is very loud on NA Z's. I have test pipes and true dual exhaust and it is quite loud with 2.5" exhaust. I would probably recommend getting high flow cats if you are worried about exhaust smell and a little raspyness. They are a bit more expensive then test pipes but yield about 2-3 hp maybe? im guessing, not a noticeable difference. I will probably end up getting some high flow cats once I get tired of my test pipes due to the fact that they are loud as hell and will get annoying after a while. good luck
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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The only thing that worries me is the smell plus the $1,500 dollar fine for removing cats thanks to our beloved California Air Resources Board (CARB).

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so if you get the high flow cats you will have no problem passing inspection?
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I wouldnt say it would mess up the motor but It probably isnt a good idea. If your askin about sound and raspyness of test pipes I definitely wouldn't recommend a 3'' exhaust unless you are planning on going FI in the close future. 3'' exhaust is very loud on NA Z's. I have test pipes and true dual exhaust and it is quite loud with 2.5" exhaust. I would probably recommend getting high flow cats if you are worried about exhaust smell and a little raspyness. They are a bit more expensive then test pipes but yield about 2-3 hp maybe? im guessing, not a noticeable difference. I will probably end up getting some high flow cats once I get tired of my test pipes due to the fact that they are loud as hell and will get annoying after a while. good luck
2-3HP less than test pipes? Or they make 2-3HP in total?
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test pipes probably make 2-3 hp more than hf cats. I would have to say test pipes will give around 10 extra hp or so compared to the stock cats, I definately could tell a difference, especially around 3k rpm.

test pipes are the yellow curve, non-resonated.

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