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Does the Cosworth plenum give any gains for N/A?

Old Jan 31, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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Default Does the Cosworth plenum give any gains for N/A?

Anyone actually installed the Cosworth plenum in a non-turbo VQ35 and done a valid dyno before & after comparison?

I know it's too much money to spend for the amount of gains, I'm just curious.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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i would say no.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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so far it is right on par with spacers. i beleive gives it it a it more midrange though. as for fi, dont quote me on this, but i beleive it showed positive numbers
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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see injected performance's "review thread" in F/I section. It showed gains similar to mrev/spacer on a stock revup.

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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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can yall link me to that test of a N/A car with a cosworth manifold? cant find it in the FI forums.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 06:51 AM
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im not sure if there is anyone who has done it on their NA set-up, simply because its right around 1000 dollars, and you can get the same results for much cheaper with just a spacer.

however, with a FI car, the plenum HAS shown amazing power increases over other plenum choices at 6000 rpm's and beyond...if you go to the FI Forum it is somewhere on the last few pages of unposted material.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ke0ki2k
can yall link me to that test of a N/A car with a cosworth manifold? cant find it in the FI forums.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ected+cosworth

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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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why would u want to spend that much money on it if ur NA>?
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
why would u want to spend that much money on it if ur NA>?
To each his/her own, but the demand on this plenum seems to be very high and Cos can't produce enough of them right now--I have a feeling that not everyone who preordered is F/I, but I could be wrong.

Some may like the look of it coupled with the gains, even though similar gains can likely be had on a N/A setup with spacer/Mrev for cheaper.

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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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i believe the gains on the FI car tested was somewhere in the 35whp range up top and pulled all the way to redline.
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
why would u want to spend that much money on it if ur NA>?
i'm not now lol. they were claiming 17 whp consistently through the powerband on a close to stock car, which would make it worth a grand in my book. but thats no better than a motordyne setup. oh well
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
i would say no.


Actually the very first review done by Injected Performance was on a stock N/A car.
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it drops off past 6400 rpm?
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Originally Posted by Cloud
it drops off past 6400 rpm?
From Injected's dynos of the cos on the F/I and N/A cars, it seems as though the plenum has different effects depending on whether you are boosted or not.

For N/A, it looks like Mrev/spacer combo, where mid range is gained, and some top end is lost.

For F/I, there seems to be loss in the mid range, but very good gains high in the powerband (6k+).

Seems like opposite results, but maybe more testing is needed

Tony's (MD) take:

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I believe the NA setup was a comparison of the REVUP lower plenum against the Cosworth. (Note: The REVUP lower plenum, by design, exchanges midrange power for a small boost at the high end.) So the results come as no surprise.

But yes, this is an interesting and perplexing comparison.

On a NA REVUP engine, the Cosworth looks somewhat like a MREV/spacer setup. The Cosworth made good midrange gains and dropped off slightly at the high end. ...this comparison makes the Cosworth look like a lower frequency tune plenum.

On a FI NON-REVUP engine, the Cosworth looks somewhat like a REVUP lower plenum?... It lost midrange gains and made good gains at the high end. ...this comparison makes the Cosworth look like a higher frequency tuned plenum.

So far, the data seems contradictory, but it may not be contraditory at all. When working from the established paradigme of what we already know about intake plenum mods, trends and performance, this new Cosworth may not be in the same universe of plenum performance rules. It may have its own set of rules.

A lot more testing may be needed to really know what the Cosworth plenum is all about.

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I've got this plenum on the way. . .I'll be staying n/a. . .
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Vader007
Actually the very first review done by Injected Performance was on a stock N/A car.
Exactly, and without a reflash or retune to optimize the A/F ratio for the new plenum. I'd like to see the following comparison, on a non-revup motor preferably:

1. 100% Stock (not turbo)
2. Stock, but with a reflash and tune by Uprev
3. Cosworth plenum, without reflash/tune
4. Cosworth plenum, with reflash and tune
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by nismo240r
I've got this plenum on the way. . .I'll be staying n/a. . .
Did u buy from injected? Do u plan on doing before/after dynos?
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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Bought from Adam @ Z-1. . .I can't really do a before/after dyno because my engine for the 240 is getting built and I do not have a base dyno for the G. . .I'll see if I can grab someone in Edmonton that's willing to let me to a comparison on their Z/G. . .
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^Gotcha. Mine arrives from ip today, install wed. And then to the same dyno that I ran with all my mods including mrev2,5/16 spacer. I'm interested to see how the cos stacks up to the proven MD combo on revup na's. Ill post my results here.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jonnylaw
^Gotcha. Mine arrives from ip today, install wed. And then to the same dyno that I ran with all my mods including mrev2,5/16 spacer. I'm interested to see how the cos stacks up to the proven MD combo on revup na's. Ill post my results here.
I cant wait to see these results. I am staying NA for this year (at least) and would like to see what someone puts down on a dyno with the usual NA bolt ons.
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