Headers for 03-06 compair to stock
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Headers for 03-06 compair to stock
This is a comparison between the stock headers and a set of top speed. I have been asked a lot to show proof of headers benefit on my 05 350z. Here are some photos and dyno info just so you can make up your own mind.
First is a side by side photo
Second is the difference in the outlet. Note the stock has a very small inner tube.
Third is the Head flange. Note the thick welds on the stock restrict airflow.
Fourth is my before and after Dyno.
Before
popcharger
5/16th spacer
Port and polish
nismo exhaust
After
popcharger
5/16th spacer
Port and polish
Topspeed headers
nismo exhaust
Now the cost is very high if you have to have these installed. I did mine myself and it took about 8 hour in my garage on jack stands and it is not easy. The headers I bought used for $140.
My results are only for you to be able to make up your own mind. For me I am a gear head and just to have the better design on the car was enough for me to swap them out. Stock 03-06 headers are crap.
In the end I did all I could with my DE motor and gave in and traded it for my 07.
First is a side by side photo
Second is the difference in the outlet. Note the stock has a very small inner tube.
Third is the Head flange. Note the thick welds on the stock restrict airflow.
Fourth is my before and after Dyno.
Before
popcharger
5/16th spacer
Port and polish
nismo exhaust
After
popcharger
5/16th spacer
Port and polish
Topspeed headers
nismo exhaust
Now the cost is very high if you have to have these installed. I did mine myself and it took about 8 hour in my garage on jack stands and it is not easy. The headers I bought used for $140.
My results are only for you to be able to make up your own mind. For me I am a gear head and just to have the better design on the car was enough for me to swap them out. Stock 03-06 headers are crap.
In the end I did all I could with my DE motor and gave in and traded it for my 07.
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nice comparison. As like most headers 4 hp gain at the top end could be agruementive, but the 12lbs of torque is solid. I did 0 up top with my borla and 9lb of torque through out the band, so that sounds about right. Over and above they do jack **** for our engines and unfortunatly still seems not worth it. You throw headers on a Z06 or even a mustang at that and your seeing 20hp gain up top. 1-5hp for twice the money they pay thats what makes this mod the most arguementive upgrade there is, beside maybe an intake lol
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I would not get to wrapped up in the peak numbers. The car drove soo much better at the track. The corner exit pull and mid range increase was great. It lived at 4000-6000 and that is were these realy help. If you are after your max numbers then FI is the best choice.
This was a year ago and the question just keeps getting asked so I decided to post it up and just link the thread.
This was a year ago and the question just keeps getting asked so I decided to post it up and just link the thread.
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It was only a slight change. I noticed it because it was my car but everyone eles could not. With the pop charger the intake was so loud it was harder to tell the difference.
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How do you think these topspeed headers compare to other name brands such nismo. Thats a great price you paid for those. I would think about doing that mod if I could find some for that price.
8 hours to install holy shnikees! I guess it proved worth it to you. Do you think it would take everyone that long?
8 hours to install holy shnikees! I guess it proved worth it to you. Do you think it would take everyone that long?
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I bet it would take the average person longer. I am a ASE and A&P mechanic and have every tool know to man in my garage.This install is Not for the weak of heart.
I bought these off of a friend and that is why the price was so low. They were built great and I had them for a year+ and no issue.
I bought these off of a friend and that is why the price was so low. They were built great and I had them for a year+ and no issue.
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I had next to zero gains when I installed my DC sport headers (same design).
The AFR graph is interesting. Were these two pulls on the same dyno, same conditions, and same gear?
The AFR graph is interesting. Were these two pulls on the same dyno, same conditions, and same gear?
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Originally Posted by HondaKiller
nice comparison. As like most headers 4 hp gain at the top end could be agruementive, but the 12lbs of torque is solid. I did 0 up top with my borla and 9lb of torque through out the band, so that sounds about right. Over and above they do jack **** for our engines and unfortunatly still seems not worth it. You throw headers on a Z06 or even a mustang at that and your seeing 20hp gain up top. 1-5hp for twice the money they pay thats what makes this mod the most arguementive upgrade there is, beside maybe an intake lol
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Yea... I know but this is just meant to better educate everyone and let them make up their own mind.
The only numbers I have to work with is ET. There are too many variables involved to make an objective statement about headers. Still I am pleased with the combination of intake and exhaust mods.
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Originally Posted by kenpo_350Z
With the S2000 I was told DC was horrible. I don't know if you can compare the two unless dc took topspeeds mold?
As far as NA mods, I don't even think I'd bother with any of them except maybe exhaust or a drop in filter. Call me jaded...