Titanium Vs Stainless steel Exhaust
05-22-2007, 06:01 PM
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Ti has a higher pitch sound and weighs more. Corrosion isnt a major problem as even mild steel will last 6-7 years without any issues. Remember, if you punch a hole thru a Ti exhaust because you hit a rock, it'll be hard to find someone who can repair it. Punch a hole thru SS or mild steel, just get it patched.
05-22-2007, 07:24 PM
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Ti has a higher pitch sound and weighs more. Corrosion isnt a major problem as even mild steel will last 6-7 years without any issues. Remember, if you punch a hole thru a Ti exhaust because you hit a rock, it'll be hard to find someone who can repair it. Punch a hole thru SS or mild steel, just get it patched.
05-23-2007, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by turismo
Is that full TI?
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05-23-2007, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
It's similar to the Amuse. It's a y-pipe back and it's fully titanium. It's light as hell. It looks stock (especially the 1st gen which has a Z logo with 3 dots on either side) but with huge 4" exits.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....67#post3669467
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....67#post3669467
05-23-2007, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by vo7848
The Z logo'd muffler was a special edition. It now has something else imprinted on the muffler. It's a shame though, because I really wanted the Z emblemed version.
Mine's cooler than yours! I win!
05-23-2007, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
I thought the Z logo one was the first generation and what you had was the next?
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First off . . . you will love it. I have had mine for a while now and it is my favorite exhaust out of any I have heard.
The ones with the - - - Z - - - laser etched are the first ones Fuji ever offered. I believe that they were originally optional equipment in Japan as well as offered in the aftermarket.
If you want a complete system get a fuji y pipe. It actually makes as much performance gains as the actual exhaust. The most advantageous thing about the Fuji Ti is the weight and the sound. If you dont get a y pipe you will still be restricted until the mid pipe.
Here is mine:
The ones with the - - - Z - - - laser etched are the first ones Fuji ever offered. I believe that they were originally optional equipment in Japan as well as offered in the aftermarket.
If you want a complete system get a fuji y pipe. It actually makes as much performance gains as the actual exhaust. The most advantageous thing about the Fuji Ti is the weight and the sound. If you dont get a y pipe you will still be restricted until the mid pipe.
Here is mine:
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05-23-2007, 02:57 PM
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It'll be ok, Val. I MAY sell mine. I haven't completely decided yet. I've only had it for about a month or so, but I could use the money. We'll see.
It'll be ok, Val. I MAY sell mine. I haven't completely decided yet. I've only had it for about a month or so, but I could use the money. We'll see.
05-23-2007, 03:39 PM
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Like said above, Ti is lighter, stronger, and more expensive than SS. The drawbacks of Ti come from why it is so good. Ti is stronger than SS so they can use very thin walls compared to SS. This will also lead to more "noises" from the Ti exhaust since the walls are thinner and there is less dampening of the sound. Also, Ti is strong but it is also brittle. So your very thin walls under the right amount of stress will crack and ruin the system. Also most shops dont carry Ti rods for welding, or have powerful enough equipment. Basically unless you're building a race car and every ounce counts, just be practical and use SS.
05-23-2007, 09:03 PM
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The process to welding Ti is almost the same as doing SS, specially if it thin material as long as you are using a TIG welder. Ti can rust, specially if not welded correctly. To weld Ti, you need to remove the atmosphere/air out of the weld. Most Ti welding are done in a vacuum room/tube or something of that nature. There are other method to welding Ti but they are not 100% air free, so you still take a chance of having a "contaminated" weld.
05-24-2007, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
It'll be ok, Val. I MAY sell mine. I haven't completely decided yet. I've only had it for about a month or so, but I could use the money. We'll see.
I noticed another difference too. The tips on my edition are rolled in.
05-24-2007, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by vo7848
I love your muffler.
I noticed another difference too. The tips on my edition are rolled in.
I noticed another difference too. The tips on my edition are rolled in.
05-24-2007, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
Ti exhausts are always lighter than SS exhausts, not heavier. They use very thin walls on Ti exhausts...
I know its lighter lol.
05-27-2007, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
On average, the Ti version will weigh about 1/2 of stainless.
What swifty said about the noise is correct. Mild steel is the densest of materials you would see in an exhaust system, is the cheapest, and is the least durable when exposed to the elements. being that its dense, they tend to sound more bassy.
Stainless comes next - lightweight, looks good, if its made from quality stainless, it will not rust (yes, stainless steel can rust!) like mild steel. How light it is varies from company to company. Stainless is not as dense as mild steel, so it sounds a bit more agressive than the same system done ion mild steel.
Titanium is very light, very strong, and resists corrossion even more. The material itself is not all that costly, but the process and equipment needed to properly weld it is, hence the cost. On average, a Ti cat back goes from around $1100.00 on up, so defiantely not cheap. Being the least dense of the above three maerial,s it will have the most raspy sound.
But in order to determine the best overall note, which is highly subjective, its best to try adn listen to them all. As we get more and more into loading our Z section to the site, we willl actually have sound demos available for all the systems we offer - hopefully by years end.
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What swifty said about the noise is correct. Mild steel is the densest of materials you would see in an exhaust system, is the cheapest, and is the least durable when exposed to the elements. being that its dense, they tend to sound more bassy.
Stainless comes next - lightweight, looks good, if its made from quality stainless, it will not rust (yes, stainless steel can rust!) like mild steel. How light it is varies from company to company. Stainless is not as dense as mild steel, so it sounds a bit more agressive than the same system done ion mild steel.
Titanium is very light, very strong, and resists corrossion even more. The material itself is not all that costly, but the process and equipment needed to properly weld it is, hence the cost. On average, a Ti cat back goes from around $1100.00 on up, so defiantely not cheap. Being the least dense of the above three maerial,s it will have the most raspy sound.
But in order to determine the best overall note, which is highly subjective, its best to try adn listen to them all. As we get more and more into loading our Z section to the site, we willl actually have sound demos available for all the systems we offer - hopefully by years end.
adam
I do NOT like the sound of the titanium exhausts that I've heard. A buddy of mine ruined his Corvette's sound by adding a titanium exhaust. It sounds horrible now.
Titanium has a "ringing" sound to it. Some people may LOVE that, but it is not my cup of tea. I think the stainless exhausts sound the best, but that is just my opinion. On the other hand, if I were going to track my car, I wouldn't consider anything other than titanium.
05-27-2007, 09:19 PM
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Exhaust material/brand/design is all subjective. Everything has its pluses and minuses. I chose to order a custom full titanium exhaust for my g35 for the 1/4 weight savings, and those dang puurty burn blue tips and seeing the piping change color over time. I'm a sucker for titan.
IMO, Titan exhausts have a more mettalic sound/ring to them w/ a more exotic note. Some may like this (like me), others may not. Imo the design of the exhaust (nismo style or true dual, etc.) has more of a change on the exhaust note than the material of the exhaust.
Is it needed? No. Is it worth it? Probably not unless you track. Are the SS exhausts the best choice for most? Of course! But did I order a titan exhaust? Yes, cuz me likey very much and couldn't resist
IMO, Titan exhausts have a more mettalic sound/ring to them w/ a more exotic note. Some may like this (like me), others may not. Imo the design of the exhaust (nismo style or true dual, etc.) has more of a change on the exhaust note than the material of the exhaust.
Is it needed? No. Is it worth it? Probably not unless you track. Are the SS exhausts the best choice for most? Of course! But did I order a titan exhaust? Yes, cuz me likey very much and couldn't resist
05-28-2007, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Track
A buddy of mine ruined his Corvette's sound by adding a titanium exhaust. It sounds horrible now.
05-28-2007, 11:01 AM
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I wish I could find a better collection of Ti exhaust clips. I'm hoping to get an 07 and its go big or go home time. A lot of the parts on my car now I'd rather replace with Ti catback and some nice resonated test pipes (Ti test pipes would be amazing)
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