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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by maXmood
try to elaborate why he shouldn't be listening to me..
Why would it be bad to run 3" on a NA motor? Please tell me how u came to ur post
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
Why would it be bad to run 3" on a NA motor? Please tell me how u came to ur post
why would u call me an idiot and answer my question with a question?

if u don't have a good reasoning why he shouldn't be listening to me, then stfu and let everyone post his opinion/experience.

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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ambientflier
25. I'm sorry if you think that putting something like this on a Z is ok: http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_i...0004_large.jpg
so what's wrong with that? How is that a fart can? You say "fart" can, implying a negative attitude towards sound of the exhaust, yet you post pictures to prove your point regardless of actual sound produced?
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by maXmood
why would u call me an idiot and answer my question with a question?

if u don't have a good reasoning why he shouldn't be listening to me, then stfu and let everyone post his opinion/experience.

bc ur still a fcking idiot. I wanna know why he or for that matter anyone shouldnt run 3"? Im running it right now and have ran 3" a bunch of times in the past. Dont get upset bc u cant back up ur pointless post.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jadaniya
fart cans... LOL. How old are u grandpa?
Grandpa? How young are you junior?
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
bc ur still a fcking idiot. I wanna know why he or for that matter anyone shouldnt run 3"? Im running it right now and have ran 3" a bunch of times in the past. Dont get upset bc u cant back up ur pointless post.
you suck ***** with ur stupid comments.. the fact is, if the OP gonna run a 3" exhaust on a stock form, he'll come back with another post complaining about power loss. if he specifically said "i'm running FI, or done lots of N/A mods", then i myself would suggest a 3" exhaust for the matter.

running loads of exhaust systems doesn't make u any smarter.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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Wow! Quickest way to start a fight on my350z? Ask exhaust opinions lmao
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by maXmood
you suck ***** with ur stupid comments.. the fact is, if the OP gonna run a 3" exhaust on a stock form, he'll come back with another post complaining about power loss. if he specifically said "i'm running FI, or done lots of N/A mods", then i myself would suggest a 3" exhaust for the matter.

running loads of exhaust systems doesn't make u any smarter.
ok AGAIN please show me proof of how 3" exhaust on a NA motor that shows power loss!!!! Sucking ***** and whatever u wanna say haha i wanna see proff of how u came to ur post. And what does running a lot of NA mods have to do with 3" exhaust? Ur making no sense. Next time u post maybe u should say

Originally Posted by maXmood
hey IMO u shouldnt run 3" exhaust. 1) bc idk wtf im talking about im just trying to add to my post count and seem to know what im talking about and 2) if u ask me how i cam up with that solution i will call u stupid and say u suck ***** so i can try and redeem my coolness bc in fact idk wtf im talking about bc i like dik
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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It is possible, given similarly designed exhausts, that the one with smaller piping will show greater area under the dyno curve on a naturally aspirated motor. This is because with NA, a balance between exhaust velocity, scavenging effect, and maximum flow must be reached. Maxmood has a point but he did over-generalize a bit. There was no need to initiate the name calling 2004Black350Z.

That said, it is possible with careful design for a true dual 3" design to show no loss in low end torque that you might otherwise expect vs a 2.5" design. Motordyne's TDX Shockwave exhaust is one example. That exhaust maximizes low end torque and top end power by paying careful attention to tube diameter, cross over placement, bends, and transitions.

I haven't seen dynos for too many large exhausts on NA motors, but I do recall also seeing a Greddy evoTT with 2.76" piping doing well on the dyno NA (no loss in low end).

I have experience with the Fast Intentions true dual (2.5"), evoTT (2.76"), and TDX (2.5" to 3") and liked them all, for different reasons. The Motordyne just provides the flexibility to run different setups, which is why it will be hopfully, the last exhaust for me.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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This may help.

https://my350z.com/forum/intake-exha...k-for-n-a.html
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydrazine
thnx for the ref., Tony. very informative.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by maXmood
thnx for the ref., Tony. very informative. u were right 04blackZ
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Great read Tony. Thanks for sharing all of that insight and experience with the community.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pangoman
Grandpa, The first one is a JIC Ti single out and that second one is an HKS...where abouts is your cave located? Maybe you should refrain from chiming in on things you obviously know very little about.
Uh, ok. I don't need to know what a muffler is called to know that it looks like crap.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jadaniya
so what's wrong with that? How is that a fart can? You say "fart" can, implying a negative attitude towards sound of the exhaust, yet you post pictures to prove your point regardless of actual sound produced?
Those mufflers are ugly. It's the same look as all the jdm civics and accords have all over the place. A huge cylindrical exhaust with a tip that's only slightly smaller than the can itself.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ambientflier
Those mufflers are ugly. It's the same look as all the jdm civics and accords have all over the place. A huge cylindrical exhaust with a tip that's only slightly smaller than the can itself.
Ok, so its a fart can b/c it looks similar to an exhaust on a totally different type of car? I know what you mean about the fart can sound, I'm sure almost everyone whose seen a couple of civics on the road with exhaust knows that sound. A lot of the civics out there with exhaust have that fart can sound... regardless of what the mufflers on the exhaust look like...

If you think its ugly, your opinion is no less valid than anyone else's. But fart can? NO.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Hraesvelg
Grandpa? How young are you junior?
How old am I? Old enough to know that just because the mufflers on a 350 look like the mufflers on a civic, doesn't mean its a fart can. Young enough not to make sweeping generalizations about an exhaust's note based solely on similarities in design I find with what those youngster-racer-punk-whipper-snappers have.

How old are you guy who I wasn't referring to as grandpa, and who previously was not a part of this conversation?
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jadaniya
How old am I? Old enough to know that just because the mufflers on a 350 look like the mufflers on a civic, doesn't mean its a fart can. Young enough not to make sweeping generalizations about an exhaust's note based solely on similarities in design I find with what those youngster-racer-punk-whipper-snappers have.

How old are you guy who I wasn't referring to as grandpa, and who previously was not a part of this conversation?
Potential for Epicness just significantly increased..... one thing I've observed in my short forum life here at my350z; don't poke the bear that is Hraes.....
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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In for the Hraes win...
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ambientflier
Those mufflers are ugly. It's the same look as all the jdm civics and accords have all over the place. A huge cylindrical exhaust with a tip that's only slightly smaller than the can itself.
You use JDM like it's a bad thing. Wake up! The origins of the Z IS JDM.
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