Interest gauge: 350Z VQDE Long tube headers from Fast Intentions
03-07-2010, 04:45 PM
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i would be interested. install is not an issue for me, so my input is to not sacrifice power for an easier install--even if it means having to lower the engine a bit. clearing 06 racks are a must too.
04-05-2010, 06:57 AM
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Why doesn't FastIntentions (a member/sponsor) post updates and make comments himself?
Also, as far as long tube headers from FI, I'd only be interested if they can produce headers that yield as much gains (or more) than SGM's long tube headers for a cheaper price.
Also, as far as long tube headers from FI, I'd only be interested if they can produce headers that yield as much gains (or more) than SGM's long tube headers for a cheaper price.
04-05-2010, 07:08 AM
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If proven performance is there, with a quality collector and welds, with a quality ceramic coating, at a REASONABLE price... And with a reasonable install... people will be all over it.
But the biggest thing is gains vs End Price.
The current shorty headers set up that is out is at a reasonable price, but because the install is a ***** which the common person cant or wouldnt want to install themselves, and professional install is a Pretty Penny, people are saying that the gains are not worth how much you are spending after everything.
Exp: Headers $500 + install at $400 = $900 for about 10hp
I know those are really rough numbers, but you get what im talking about.
But the biggest thing is gains vs End Price.
The current shorty headers set up that is out is at a reasonable price, but because the install is a ***** which the common person cant or wouldnt want to install themselves, and professional install is a Pretty Penny, people are saying that the gains are not worth how much you are spending after everything.
Exp: Headers $500 + install at $400 = $900 for about 10hp
I know those are really rough numbers, but you get what im talking about.
Fast intentions probably won't be cheap..
04-20-2010, 04:32 PM
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I apologize to everyone for taking so long to chime in on this. About 3 years ago we designed a prototype for the DE in a shorty header version. The gains were minimal and we scraped the project. About 6 months ago we prototyped the HR long tube header. The gains we achieved on a car that already had our high flow cats and cat back were substantial. Our long tube headers eliminate catalytic converters altogether. In some states they will not pass emissions and are considered for off road use only. In other cases some will never have an issue passing smog with them.
Here is the deal. I am willing to entertain the idea of a long tube for the DE however I need to see enough serious interest generated and I will have to do a prototype before I even consider production. Only problem right now is I am very undermanned and have a back long of work that is about 4 months long. We are moving to a 9,000 sq. ft shop in November. Once I get settled in there and hire more help, I will try to make something happen. Until then I am sorry but there is not time.
Thank you, Tony
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Here is the deal. I am willing to entertain the idea of a long tube for the DE however I need to see enough serious interest generated and I will have to do a prototype before I even consider production. Only problem right now is I am very undermanned and have a back long of work that is about 4 months long. We are moving to a 9,000 sq. ft shop in November. Once I get settled in there and hire more help, I will try to make something happen. Until then I am sorry but there is not time.
Thank you, Tony
Fast Intentions, Inc.
(818) 882-2788
04-21-2010, 08:51 PM
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I apologize to everyone for taking so long to chime in on this. About 3 years ago we designed a prototype for the DE in a shorty header version. The gains were minimal and we scraped the project. About 6 months ago we prototyped the HR long tube header. The gains we achieved on a car that already had our high flow cats and cat back were substantial. Our long tube headers eliminate catalytic converters altogether. In some states they will not pass emissions and are considered for off road use only. In other cases some will never have an issue passing smog with them.
Here is the deal. I am willing to entertain the idea of a long tube for the DE however I need to see enough serious interest generated and I will have to do a prototype before I even consider production. Only problem right now is I am very undermanned and have a back long of work that is about 4 months long. We are moving to a 9,000 sq. ft shop in November. Once I get settled in there and hire more help, I will try to make something happen. Until then I am sorry but there is not time.
Thank you, Tony
Fast Intentions, Inc.
(818) 882-2788
Here is the deal. I am willing to entertain the idea of a long tube for the DE however I need to see enough serious interest generated and I will have to do a prototype before I even consider production. Only problem right now is I am very undermanned and have a back long of work that is about 4 months long. We are moving to a 9,000 sq. ft shop in November. Once I get settled in there and hire more help, I will try to make something happen. Until then I am sorry but there is not time.
Thank you, Tony
Fast Intentions, Inc.
(818) 882-2788
Just curious, did you ever put the HR long tubes into production?
04-22-2010, 08:50 AM
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About 3 years ago we designed a prototype for the DE in a shorty header version. The gains were minimal and we scraped the project. About 6 months ago we prototyped the HR long tube header. The gains we achieved on a car that already had our high flow cats and cat back were substantial.
Thank you, Tony
Fast Intentions, Inc.
(818) 882-2788
Thank you, Tony
Fast Intentions, Inc.
(818) 882-2788
It would be nice to have a real good quality set of long tube headers, especially with 3" collectors.
05-13-2010, 07:47 PM
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read up on the 370 forum and after the guy changed form stillen to FI it had a better powerband sorta and less Peak. if i was him id feel like a idiot. SG Motorsports are idiots for charging 2k for headers. No one has seen SG LTHs on a stock Z to actually see GAINS. Only on semi built or race cars. On my particular set up to really max me out on stock block it would cost around 3200$ without install for about idk 30hp. (ART pipes 3-10hp over what i got now, SG Lths which i guess would yield 20hp. THen uprev Tune. Sorry if im blabbing im at a bar with my gf not having fun so im excessive drikning oniphone
06-06-2010, 10:32 AM
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I would definitely purchase...
According to SG's testing of long tube headers on the DE, the limiting factor wasn't the headers, but the cams. The HR uses a much more aggressive cam profile than the DE's. If the user were to slap in a set of Nismo R or JWT cams, then LTH on a DE is just as promising as the HR. Not to mention, the gains he experienced from his custom intake manifold.
Since the rules changed at my local track, I plan to run "street stock" this year at the main event. Any little bit of hp I can attain will help greatly.
According to SG's testing of long tube headers on the DE, the limiting factor wasn't the headers, but the cams. The HR uses a much more aggressive cam profile than the DE's. If the user were to slap in a set of Nismo R or JWT cams, then LTH on a DE is just as promising as the HR. Not to mention, the gains he experienced from his custom intake manifold.
Since the rules changed at my local track, I plan to run "street stock" this year at the main event. Any little bit of hp I can attain will help greatly.
06-06-2010, 12:36 PM
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read up on the 370 forum and after the guy changed form stillen to FI it had a better powerband sorta and less Peak. if i was him id feel like a idiot. SG Motorsports are idiots for charging 2k for headers. No one has seen SG LTHs on a stock Z to actually see GAINS. Only on semi built or race cars. On my particular set up to really max me out on stock block it would cost around 3200$ without install for about idk 30hp. (ART pipes 3-10hp over what i got now, SG Lths which i guess would yield 20hp. THen uprev Tune. Sorry if im blabbing im at a bar with my gf not having fun so im excessive drikning oniphone