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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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http://www.sg-motorsport.com/store/p...5fb93c50b87bd2

Who's takin the plunge? Should be delivered by December according to the info that was sent out.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 10:31 PM
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I was wondering when they where going to sell them. High price but i guess thats for the quality and performance. Looks good!!
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 11:18 PM
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Time to see what next how years Enthusiast class rules read.
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 12:29 AM
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Now how much longer are us HR owners going to have to wait for a set?
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 06:56 AM
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Man those long tubes are sickkkkkkkkk, gotta start saving haha!!
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They get bolted up pipe by pipe so the install time is reduced by quite a bit. And they make jam!!!!! I would like a set.

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2 grand ????? isnt there another company making these for far less ?
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Originally Posted by booger
2 grand ????? isnt there another company making these for far less ?
They are limited production race car manifolds.

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2 grand ????? isnt there another company making these for far less ?
I wish.
If you can find anyone, please point me in their direction.
I would pull the trigger on these SG headers right now if it wasn't for a Paypal dispute I'm waiting to resolve with 350zmotorsports.com
Hopefully after the 11th (Paypal's alotted time for the other party to respond) these or the next batch will be available for order.
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SuperSprints are like 1700. TBH, with labor, unless you DIY, it will prob be about the same because of SG's slip fit design, etc. SS LTHs have not been proven, though I'm told their reputation and R&D is top notch. Do not have the ceramic coating, though. A matter of preference.
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SuperSprints are like 1700. TBH, with labor, unless you DIY, it will prob be about the same because of SG's slip fit design, etc. SS LTHs have not been proven, though I'm told their reputation and R&D is top notch. Do not have the ceramic coating, though. A matter of preference.
Are those the headers from Italy? Do they still make them? I figured they were just a pipe dream like the SG headers were up until last night
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Originally Posted by Wu-Watt
They get bolted up pipe by pipe so the install time is reduced by quite a bit. And they make jam!!!!! I would like a set.
**Sound clip please.
Take a look at the pic . they dont bolt up any different than any other header . Unless of course you weld the collector to the pipes after you bolt up the pipes. Im not saying these are not well made , thought out , and well developed headers . As long as a header is equal length tubes and the tube lengths are the same from one maker to the next . Quality metals and welds are the only difference you will see from one maker to the next . Is it worth a $1500.00 increase in price ? You make the call !

other long tube headers


http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/h11354s.html

and there is Megan racing headers . others dont make them anymore .

To add , just because a maker of some aftermarket product claims a ** whp gain doesnt mean crap . Very few ever see the whp claimed with any aftermarket product.
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Originally Posted by booger
Take a look at the pic . they dont bolt up any different than any other header . Unless of course you weld the collector to the pipes after you bolt up the pipes. Im not saying these are not well made , thought out , and well developed headers . As long as a header is equal length tubes and the tube lengths are the same from one maker to the next . Quality metals and welds are the only difference you will see from one maker to the next . Is it worth a $1500.00 increase in price ? You make the call !

other long tube headers


http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/h11354s.html

and there is Megan racing headers . others dont make them anymore .

To add , just because a maker of some aftermarket product claims a ** whp gain doesnt mean crap . Very few ever see the whp claimed with any aftermarket product.
Your wrong they are way different. (pic)

See how the flange is separate on every tube? It's not one piece.

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**Sound clip please.
Are your serious? I guess mid/y pipe and further doesn't matter. Not to mention these are for serious performance people, not the panty in a bunch on how there car will sound poser.
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man, i'm glad these are finally making it into production.

i really hope that the people that buy these have the supporting mods to go with them.

i just don't have too much faith in this community though. there will prolly be a bunch of tards who put them on and complain about the non-power they got. then bash sg for selling a bunk product that is not any better than the megan lt's(it already started in this thread) their "boy" has. then every other tard will believe them because, well, they are tards.

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I was at SG this week to get my fenders rolled and caught a glimpse of the headers up close. I can say that the quality is top notch and I'll definitely be waiting or a set of HR headers.
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Im waiting on a de to make huge gains before I buy. If they don't make 25+hp not worth it imo
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Are your serious? I guess mid/y pipe and further doesn't matter. Not to mention these are for serious performance people, not the panty in a bunch on how there car will sound poser.
Ya I'm serious. I said it didnt I? I want to hear them pair'd up with some exhaust other than on the SG race car.
Panty in a bunch poser?
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
Im waiting on a de to make huge gains before I buy. If they don't make 25+hp not worth it imo
On a car with the right cams, the bottom end to rev, and stock headers, they will make that power (in and around). Without those mods, no header is going to make anywhere near that (and I bet Sasha will agree). Such is the life of a non revup/non HR. This is not a part for a bolt on, non revup DE
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by booger
Take a look at the pic . they dont bolt up any different than any other header . Unless of course you weld the collector to the pipes after you bolt up the pipes. Im not saying these are not well made , thought out , and well developed headers . As long as a header is equal length tubes and the tube lengths are the same from one maker to the next . Quality metals and welds are the only difference you will see from one maker to the next . Is it worth a $1500.00 increase in price ? You make the call !

other long tube headers


http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/h11354s.html

and there is Megan racing headers . others dont make them anymore .

To add , just because a maker of some aftermarket product claims a ** whp gain doesnt mean crap . Very few ever see the whp claimed with any aftermarket product.
long tube means nothing - it's certainly not a guarantee of power gains (or losses).

equal length means absolutely nothing, and is not a guarantee of power, but goes towards determining (in part) the powerband

the piping length, and diameters are what matters, and then, they are only meaningful relative to the intake manifold and cam profile they are working with. Hence why some headers make great power on some setups, yet can fall flat on their *** with others. They all operate within the confines of what they were designed around. The header used for a stock non revup DE cam is not going to work well with a 12mm lift cam on the same engine. The quality of components used, the time required to make, and overall intelligene of design is the difference between any 2 products. Again, why the ebay turbo kit is $500 and a greddy kit is $5000. It's not by accident.

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