Hi Flow Cats - Who is the best?
12-16-2003, 04:00 PM
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Each state is different, and California does not recognize the executive order number for the RT cats as an authorized replacement. You must use new OEM cats, or refurbished ones as replacements only. If you are really that concerned and want to be absolutely sure you are legal then you should call CARB and find out what is legal and what is not....there are some big fines if you get caught so it would be worth your while to make sure.
IMO if you can't see the cat then there should not be an issue, these cats will pass smog because they are CARB certified.
Has anyone got a CEL with these aftermarket cats?
IMO if you can't see the cat then there should not be an issue, these cats will pass smog because they are CARB certified.
Has anyone got a CEL with these aftermarket cats?
12-16-2003, 04:25 PM
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CARB E.O. # D1832-2 "50 State Legal" color code designation 1 Green.
"Place this card in your glove box along with your registration."
Hey, works for me man.
HTH's
"Place this card in your glove box along with your registration."
Hey, works for me man.
HTH's
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12-17-2003, 02:40 AM
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C.A.R.B.
California Air Resourses Board Exemption Order
You can call them, I'm just gonna plop the card in my glove box like it says.
Note the C for California not Kansas.
It's not a KARB.
Peace Out!
California Air Resourses Board Exemption Order
You can call them, I'm just gonna plop the card in my glove box like it says.
Note the C for California not Kansas.It's not a KARB.
Peace Out!
12-17-2003, 07:02 AM
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well i will let others do the research that i have already done...and i don't intend on telling people that those cats are legal in California like you and spread false information, or giving someone a false sense of security saying that a piece of paper will get you off the hook... maybe in another state but not in California. i know they will pass smog, but all i am saying is that they are not legal in California period, and if you get caught you will pay a healthy fine
12-17-2003, 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Road Warrior
i don't intend on telling people that those cats are legal in California like you and spread false information,
i don't intend on telling people that those cats are legal in California like you and spread false information,
12-17-2003, 03:13 PM
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I got pulled over after a meet for a "modified exhaust"
Cop had me rev my engine, with nismo exhaust , high flow cats, intake...
looked around the car...
looked under the hood...
let me go...
I revved it up to 5000 rpm by accident, the tilton flywheel is pretty darn jumpy!
Cop had me rev my engine, with nismo exhaust , high flow cats, intake...
looked around the car...
looked under the hood...
let me go...
I revved it up to 5000 rpm by accident, the tilton flywheel is pretty darn jumpy!
12-17-2003, 03:13 PM
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my statement was directed to 12secz who appears to believe that his RT cats are legal in the state of California
and i am not telling everyone not to buy them either because RT makes a good product and their quality is excellent
i am just saying to be aware that they may be illegal in your state (California in particular) and there could be a steep fine if you are caught with them, thats all...sorry if i came across defensive to anyone....out
and i am not telling everyone not to buy them either because RT makes a good product and their quality is excellent
i am just saying to be aware that they may be illegal in your state (California in particular) and there could be a steep fine if you are caught with them, thats all...sorry if i came across defensive to anyone....out
12-17-2003, 03:17 PM
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No cats - big fine, I would take them to court on any other cite and fight it. I know what a E.O. order is in California and I am running cats because mine was damaged.
edit sorry you are right. CA sucks. Laws were made to be broken.
edit sorry you are right. CA sucks. Laws were made to be broken.
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12-17-2003, 03:26 PM
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Jeff and 12secZ- you guys suck, I got cited for "modified exhaust" which, after a visit to the BAR ref, was determined to be completely legal since a cat back exhaust does not fall under emissions (smog) unless it has an EGR. Cost me $35 and 2 hours of my time 
. This was pre cats of course 
. This was pre cats of course
12-17-2003, 03:28 PM
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This design, which meets Federal EPA and California ARB requirements, enables virtually any vehicle with a properly tuned engine to meet emissions standards with little, if any power loss (compared to an exhaust with no catalytic converter). Please note that no aftermarket catalytic converters are legal for installation in California on OBD II vehicles (some 1994 & 1995, and all 1996 and later vehicles).
I just pulled that off RT's cite so RW is right.
Pathetic if you ask me, I hate California. My appoligies for being wrong.
Don't do as I do or say because I am a rebel and you will go to jail and then probably hell
Out....
I just pulled that off RT's cite so RW is right.
Pathetic if you ask me, I hate California. My appoligies for being wrong.
Don't do as I do or say because I am a rebel and you will go to jail and then probably hell
Out....
12-17-2003, 03:32 PM
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no foul no harm...i hate cali laws too and i don't even live there
so i guess all of these aftermarket cats have about the same performance gains, eh...did not intend to get so far off topic
so i guess all of these aftermarket cats have about the same performance gains, eh...did not intend to get so far off topic
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12-17-2003, 05:59 PM
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Yea, the laws here do suck! Although Jason and I see how far over the line we can go at all times... Sorry to get so defensive, it's just such a great power gain I hate to have anybody overlook it. Love ya' guys!!!
Sorry to get so defensive, it's just such a great power gain I hate to have anybody overlook it. Love ya' guys!!!
12-17-2003, 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by 12SecZ
Not like I am yanking mine off or anything, come arrest me.
"What are you in for?"
"Excessive Discharge."
Not like I am yanking mine off or anything, come arrest me.
"What are you in for?"
"Excessive Discharge."
Coming from an Ob-Gyn stand point, that's just nasty 