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Old 12-16-2003, 11:01 AM
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Default Final Word on Borla TD Exhaust???

It seems prices are starting to come down a little. I can get the Borla TD system for $649 shipped now. I have read through numerous threads and this is my conclusion: * The Borla system is only slightly lounder than stock, but still makes a pleasant, almost exotic sound. * Expect a HP gain of 7-10 at best * The system is well crafted, but may require some minor tweaking to make it fit * The system is ideal for the Northeast because it is constructed of stainless steel and has a lifetime guarantee. * Borla owners...speak up! Are these comments true??? What are your impressions?

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Old 12-16-2003, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: Final Word on Borla TD Exhaust???

Originally posted by lascala26
It seems prices are starting to come down a little. I can get the Borla TD system for $649 shipped now. I have read through numerous threads and this is my conclusion: * The Borla system is only slightly lounder than stock, but still makes a pleasant, almost exotic sound. * Expect a HP gain of 7-10 at best * The system is well crafted, but may require some minor tweaking to make it fit * The system is ideal for the Northeast because it is constructed of stainless steel and has a lifetime guarantee. * Borla owners...speak up! Are these comments true??? What are your impressions?
there are soo many connection points on the borla there are so many many more places to rust..

the NISMO exhaust is stainless steel and only 3 pieces.

Borla is slightly louder then stock but is mostly low end rumble...

Its a hard decision i know...
Old 12-16-2003, 04:25 PM
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yea yea yea, borla is good, just get it already.
you will not be wishing that you had nismo if you have already made up your mind.

Or get nismo, and wonder if you should have spent the extra $ on tint.
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. . . you get what you pay for . . .
Old 12-16-2003, 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Zig Zag
yea yea yea, borla is good, just get it already.
you will not be wishing that you had nismo if you have already made up your mind.

Or get nismo, and wonder if you should have spent the extra $ on tint.

hahahaha you a-hole, that's probably exactly what he's thinking too. Wait a second, that's what I'm thinking!

Old 12-16-2003, 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by Sz28r
. . . you get what you pay for . . .
true!


i say injen is the way to go
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bad things i've heard:
BORLA -> too many peices (causes rattles), it's hard to line up the tips properly/evenly becuase of all the peices...
NISMO -> not true-duel, not as big of a performance icrease compared to others
INJEN -> angled tips, new straight tip design doesn't provide same power gains
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Even if the Borla rusts, i has a million mile warranty so I'm sure they'll be more than happy to replace it for you. In any case, I have the Borla headers\exhaust combo on my coupe and it sounds great! I think all in all, every exhaust has its strengths and weaknesses. It's just up to your opinion and how much money you want to spend...
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The Borla system is 100% stainless steel including the clamps so, I do not see it rusting since stainless steel does not rust. As for the issue of too many parts, that is ridiculous. If you, or your installer cannot put together 12, or so, pieces of pipe then it is time to hang up the wrenches. If you are worried about leaks, just weld it together once you have it fitted. Min ehas been on my car for 9+ months without a problem ...
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Love all my Borla stuff and no rattles plus Summit now stocks the headers and the True Dual so free 2 day shipping. Summit Rocks I like my low rumble Borla and even more with RT Ct pipes
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Borla does not sound exotic in my opinion. Stock is way more exotic and the nismo builds on that more. I like the borla at first, but i like the stock sound better. I bet I would like the Nismo even more, but stock exhaust is fine for now. My headers and cats give that extra sound that will tide me over for a while.
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Everyone always complains about the Borla. If you know what you're doing, there will be no rattles etc.

My dad and I installed the Borla in our garage and got everything perfectly lined up and w/o any problems. The multiple pieces actually make it easier to install IMHO.

Victor
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If I lived near Doug nothing on my car would be stock
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Originally posted by 12SecZ
If I lived near Doug nothing on my car would be stock
i 2nd that
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Originally posted by 12SecZ
If I lived near Doug nothing on my car would be stock
Hehe . . . Doug loved his borla and it will probably go on the new car, but he has expressed how nice mine sounds and how fast my car is now. He wants me to get nismo, but we also want to see what his stuff does when compared to the stock setup. My favorite is still stock, until I hear a Nismo in person. We cut a stock muffler up . . . its pretty neat! Other than a baffle chamber and some insulation there is nothing to it.

Its not about $$$, its about being fast! Fast I am, until Mike shows up.
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Did Doug have the Borla exhaust on the car that was wrecked? If so, and you still have access to the car, now may be a good time to cut open the Borla muffler and see what exactly is in there.
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Originally posted by teh215
Did Doug have the Borla exhaust on the car that was wrecked? If so, and you still have access to the car, now may be a good time to cut open the Borla muffler and see what exactly is in there.
Lets just say it is still in good shape! It is awaiting a new car!
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I recently helped my buddy Steve install a Borla system on his 350Z. It took far too long to do. There were 18 pieces including clamps. We had to hand fit many slip joints because they weren't round or properly sized, bend or straighten hangers to fit.... I'm sure you get the idea.

Having previously owned and personally installed 5 Borla catback systems, I was quite surprised and disappointed at the amount of trouble we had with his system.
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Default Re: Final Word on Borla TD Exhaust???

Originally posted by lascala26
Borla owners...speak up! Are these comments true??? What are your impressions?
i guess you will never find an answer....it seem that the Borla's are all different...some spend hours trying to get the exhaust to fit on properly, some are amazed at how easy, and perfectly the exhaust fits....some have leaks/rattles and end up losing HP, some begin embarassing M3's after the install
Old 12-17-2003, 03:33 PM
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i backed my car onto some ramps and installed the borla td exhaust by myself and put high temp silicone around all the joints...it took a while because of the low clearence but i got it on with no problems, leaks or rattles....i like the sound it produces and am sure it will really sound badass with some high flow cats...just thought i'd throw in my 2 cents


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