Want to keep everyone updated; after talking with Robert @ Kinetix yesterday, he assured me my plenum would be sent out yesterday and I would have a tracking # yesterday. He also requested me email him to talk about towing charges. Nearing 3PM CST here today and I have yet to have a tracking # or any confirmation that my v4 shipped yesterday. I also have not gotten an email response regarding towing fees. Just wanting to keep everyone informed.

-Wren

 

You are just so cool. ball sack, test dummy, got it for free. Not only cool but funny too! Wow, I wish I was you...

Unfortunately, you are mistaken, I did not get my plenum for free it did cost me money but it was a reduced amount compared to the rest. He gave me a reduced price because I helped him by doing some dynos and believe it or not, the plenum, when working, makes power. if you go back and read my very first posts on this you will see that I reported that the original plenum cracked on me, on installation, I guess only test dummies who suck ball sacks would make such statements.

Now on to something you probably wont like, I have tracked my car with the plenum on and I also have approximately six months of usage on the version one, and guess what, It still has no cracks. Will it crack? I guess time will tell... Another thing, I am a good judge of character and Isdunique is one great guy who unfortunatley brought a product out OBVIOUSLY much sooner than he should have. The product has its problems and if yours develops one you can either get your money back or you can send it in for the newest version that also may or may not develop problems down the road. Its your call. Or you can call up doug and get one of his, the choice is still yours.

Wren also is a good guy. He probably should not have driven the car with the cracked plenum on it and unfortunately had a bad situation arise because of it BUT he is a stand up guy, he did not bash Kinetix but only wanted the situation taken care and it seems like it will be.

And because what you directed at me, even though you don't know who the f*ck I am, I NOW KNOW YOUR AN A**HOLE.

 

Care to explain this comment? Who are you referring to by the use of "you guys"?

 

ive got the version 4 on now as a replacement to the ver 3....so far so good...havent put the strut tower bar or the engine cover back on yet though....drove about 100 miles on it so far and all is good

 

**** you off there ALLBARK?

I wasn't talking ****, I was just laying out the facts... Lets be realistic here allbark. Look at this thread..

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=81931

It seems the return rate of plenums is over 60% and of actual "good" 40% if even becuase its still unpredictable. Let me tell you something, if you were going to buy a car and the salesman told you. out of 10 cars we sell 6 of them come back because of warranty issues, but don't worry about it we have the friendliest customer service and if you need a rental we will take care of you! You would be a complete F*cking idiot to buy that car and im sure most people with common sense would not buy the car either...

All i said to you is that you were their test dummy, or if you want to put it in nice terms.. "R&D" person. and because you had that opportunity in helping out and I understand your loyalty to Kinetix and im sure even if the return rate was 90% you would still say... "WOW I had mine since day one no problems it works blah blah and I get to keep my strut bar" I read this forum a lot and everyone that has problems your thing is "customer service, is great, they will take care of you blah blah" But your mistaken there sir. Id rather buy a product from a company that is neutral than a company that their products DO NOT WORK and ITS PROVEN!! It works when it works but thats only 40% of the time... We don't even know the longevity of this... DO you know what happens to plastic after years? Yeah, my point exact. If they are having "cracking" issues imagine in 1 hell 3 years down the line. Maybe you don't care about that but when I buy a product I will make sure it last as long if not longer then the car. Because if that was the case I would of bought a KIA! Their cars SUCK! but they offer 100,000 warranty or 10 years whatever comes first. But you have to deal with all the ******** just like KINETIX, and maybe YOU Have time to dick around but people have lives and dont want to deal with problems. So my thing to you is your just hanging on their nuts because you know them or whatever the case may be and its totally understandable your loyal like a dog... hence the name "allbark". But next time you go to BEST Buy and someone tells you that the return rate on that plasma TV is 60% I would love to see you fork out money and buy it... Good luck with your car man as for me THUMBS DOWN KINETIX.

 

Easy fellas. This thread was started for documentation of a problem and the response from Kinetix, not to trash talk Kinetix and certainly not to start a flame between two members.

To be back on topic, I still have not recieved a call, email, or PM from Kinetix about what I discussed a few posts ago. Will keep everyone updated.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wicked4u2c
[B] **** you off there ALLBARK?

you have to deal with all the ******** just like KINETIX, and maybe YOU Have time to dick around but people have lives and dont want to deal with problems. So my thing to you is your just hanging on their nuts because you know them or whatever the case may be and its totally understandable your loyal like a dog... hence the name "allbark".



why so harsh towards kinetix and other forum members?

you dont like the product....dont buy it

no need to trash a company that is trying to improve performance for our cars.... or the people that support the effort...

i applaud kinetix for their efforts and what they have done to make good with the ones that have experianced troubles...


the ball sack and nut hanging comments are uncalled for and extreamly childish...


you and some others give kinetix a thumbs down and thats cool....
there are others that give them a thumbs up.
differance being we arent insulting you because you dont support the products

the only thing ive seen is someone call you an aszhole

and you know what they say....if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck , then its a duck

i dont see where allbark was wrong after seeing your posts



have a great day

tony

 

OK, to everyone; this flaming, bickering, name-calling and general disputing between members in this thread STOPS with this post. This thread MUST remain open to properly document this occurance and, most importantly, Kinetix's response to the situation. I have asked two moderators to delete any further posts like this, so don't waste your time.

-Wren

 

This guy has one, and its the latest one. I would never buy one after seeing how much that thing is flexing.

Sorry but there are others reporting seeing cracks only when its cold. Once it gets hot it expands and seals itself back up.

http://g35driver.com/forums/showflat...sed&sb=5&part=

 

Great customer service????
Great products????

Must be Kinetix

Priceless!

 

Thats not an accurate showing of bad plenums vs. good plenums. I for one have not voted on that poll (V2, 5 months & no cracks yet) Not counting other members who don't have a problem with theirs (why would they bother if it's working)

It's a new plenum, never been done before. Sure it's going to have problems, but what new product don't? Check out the repair forum, how many people complain about the 350Z and parts failing (Tire feather, Fuel filling problem, bad tranny, etc..)? Does that make the Z a sucky car or Nissan a bad company? Does Nissan offer replacements NO QUESTIONS ASKED? No they don't, you have to wait till a TSB comes out before they even think of fixing anything.

Really this Hating is nonconstructive and uncalled for. Majority of the Haters don't even own a Kinetix plenum and complaining about it. This attitude just scare away potential companies from making new mods for our cars.

Wren, sorry to hear what happen (but seriously dude, doing 80 on a turn with a cracked plenum ) Hope you have better luck with the new one.

 

alphared,

I don't meant to pick on what you said, but Nissan built a new car from scratch. Thousands upon thousands of engineering marvels go into doing this. It's only natural that there will be a few problems. All in all, the Z was designed, built, and TESTED to exacting standards.

NASA (and various defense contractors) builds a space shuttle with 2.5 million moving parts. And, if they had a 99.9% efficiency rate, every last shuttle they sent up would come down a smoldering wreck. You think they didn't test their **** a few hundred thousand times?

Kinetix built one part, with one variable, not tons, and they failed because they ripped the general design off from Nissan (which worked perfectly when it was cast aluminum) and changed the material. I guarantee that if Nissan designed a plastic plenum for the Z, it wouldn't look like that, because, most likely, the STRESS (only real variable that counts here) on the material would be too great.

It comes down to design and proper testing. Is lsdunique a douche bag because of this? NO. Is Kinetix a bad company because of this? Probably.

Wren - glad to hear you got out of this alright. Thanks for the tracking number, and I'll get that 11 bucks to you via paypal once I can log in. My account just got limited.

Dan

 

ok, chill little girlies before i close this thread.

 

C'mon guys, I don't think Kinetix is some multi-million dollar international corporation or government agency or something... it's obviously a small business making a few specific products for a niche market. It's also pretty obvious that many people have had problems with many different versions of plenums cracking. I have little sympathy for those who buy this product and are shocked and upset when it cracks, even less for those who continue to use the product after realizing its damaged. We're all aware of the situation, so if you aren't confident in the product, don't buy it! From the sounds of it, Kinetix has always been on point in replacing their faulty products, and at this point that's what your signing up for when you buy the plenum. If you like the company and the product, buy it! If not, don't!

 

nissan would have no problems with their plenum in plastic I think. for 1. they had uniform thickness, no designs in it other than the ribs, which though pretty designs, might have been made as structural support as well. the design by itself creates weak points. then you consider they had 6 support mounts. nothing against kinetix, using 2 was what was needed to increase volume. but reducing support and reducing strength... problems pop up. we'll see what V4 does.

 

To wiseprice,
Sorry they pulled your drawings. They cracked me up and added some humor to the situation, which always helps relieve tension. You are very funny and very talented!

 

Let me be another to say I've had my Version 2( I think) for several months with no problems. Even if I have to replace it, I appreciate the effort Kenetix has made to bring an innovative, affordable product to this group. And one that really works. Like some others who have responded to this thread, I've spent a lot of money racing (SCCA) and improving my street rides on crap that didn't work. I'm not sorry I bought my plenum and won't hassle those that developed it when they have their neck stuck out trying something new. Hang in there Kenetix.

Steve

 

I feel your pain with all the changing back and forth between plenums, I have done the same thing the same amount of times. You should get a refund and I may seek one as well, but as far as paying for your towing? No offense but you way out of line IMHO. You drove with a plenum that you know was cracked. It may be Kinetix who is to blame for a defective problem with the plenum, but once it cracked and you knew of it, it became your problem. Bottom line, you should have swaped it back ASAP. Just my .02 and keep us posted on what happens.
-Eric.

 

Well- an update. They shipped my plenum out last night and sent my tracking number last night. However, they shipped it to the wrong address! I moved 2 months ago, and although I PM'd my new address to Kinetix and they confirmed that they changed it, they still sent the plenum to my old address. I don't really know what to do now; they aren't responding to emails (ive sent 3), aren't answering the phone and their answering machine is FULL!

 

Another update;

I called them just now. First two times no pickup and went to voicemail. My persistence paid off as they answered the third time I called (I figure they were just in the shop, far away from phones). Anyway, they are going to call FedEx and have it redirected to the correct address.

One thing that did catch my attention is that they got my email about the wrong address, but haven't replied to two of my other emails regarding the towing. In a post earlier in this thread, Kinetix said "You can email me at jamisonl@msn.com and we can talk about making good on the towing charges." This was two days ago. Oh well... I'll keep everyone updated.