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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 12:28 AM
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What are you a restaurant manager? you need to shut you pie hole too. It would serve you well..............
Careful there Bigern Your showing your true age again.!
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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Return the Injen and get the JWP under $100. You won't be disapointed, and you hear and feel a difference.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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I have the Injen and I am very happy with it and I think it looks great with the polished pipes. When I first installed mine I didn't hear any difference but I sent my ECU away the next day for a reflash and now you can hear it as soon as you tap the gas. But as far as performance I dont think any CAI has a noticable difference its all in the numbers and minimal at that.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by joust75
Unfortunately you feel no difference because there is no difference.

As Many will tell you , the stock setup is very good as is, If not better than most aftermarket items.

My friend put the Injen on his car and lost HP. Probably just variations of temperature on the day of the dyno but still on most cars an intake will always net you some power.

You should have searched the forums before you bought. It is common knowledge here that the JWT Pop charger is the only intake upgrade that consistently makes power.

Cold Air Intakes like the Injen very rarely make more power on a
dyno. This is because it is almost impossible to replicate the wind
speed needed to see any benefits from this mod. Most dyno
shops use a fan to blow air across the motor which cannot duplicate the wind speed that is generated at lets say 65 MPH.
Hence, this is why gains are rare on the dyno with a C.A.I.
A real test would be at the racetrack.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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Cold Air Intakes like the Injen very rarely make more power on a
dyno. This is because it is almost impossible to replicate the wind
speed needed to see any benefits from this mod. Most dyno
shops use a fan to blow air across the motor which cannot duplicate the wind speed that is generated at lets say 65 MPH.
Hence, this is why gains are rare on the dyno with a C.A.I.
A real test would be at the racetrack.

Then consider this..... The Injen may have its filter right in a stream of cold air but then the stock airbox has an intake point almost directly in a stream of cold air. At speed the airbox is pressurized. Air with nowhere to go but into the engine.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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Then consider this..... The Injen may have its filter right in a stream of cold air but then the stock airbox has an intake point almost directly in a stream of cold air. At speed the airbox is pressurized. Air with nowhere to go but into the engine.
I agree, I think the stock system is pretty good design.
I also think the Injen is a good design.
I would just like for someone to test both at the race track to see
whick is better in real driving conditions and not on a dyno.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by petrog35
I agree, I think the stock system is pretty good design.
I also think the Injen is a good design.
I would just like for someone to test both at the race track to see
whick is better in real driving conditions and not on a dyno.
Yeah.... This whole thing has been argued over and over in pages and pages on the forums so it would be nice to have some tests, however there is no perfect way to get horsepower numbers other than a dyno. Guess Intake choice will remain a matter of opinion!
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by petrog35
I agree, I think the stock system is pretty good design.
I also think the Injen is a good design.
I would just like for someone to test both at the race track to see
whick is better in real driving conditions and not on a dyno.
I have tested them on the 1/4 mile strip and the full Injen CAI setup blew away the stock airbox with a K&N filter, it also smoked the Injen short ram setup. Granted my car is nowhere near stock, but it goes to show that when you open up the rest of the intake and exhaust system, the Injen CAI easily hands the stock system its shorts. When I say blows it away, I am talking 0.4-0.5 seconds in the 1/4. I was totally surprised since I have heard so much talk and was considering selling my Injen if it held true. With the Injen CAI setup, the car pulled midrange to redline so much harder it wasn't even funny. I also did ECU resetting and the TB resetting to make sure things were back to normal (I tried a couple runs before doing this as well). I did multiple runs with each setup and since my car is an AT, my times are pretty consistent.

BTW, the TB resetting procedures really need to be done if you pull the battery terminal to install anything including a CAI. Some of you may be extremely surprised with the results if your TB is currently not letting the right amount of air through in relation to how far you have the gas pedal pressed down. I know I was shocked the first time I realized this could be a problem.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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well, i have the Injen CAI, currently with the short-ram setup, and my friend has the popcharger.
He took me for spin in his car, i did the same with my car. My car is noticeably louder. This is because my intake is a three in pipe as opposed to the rubber stock piping. Also, my car "whistles" a lot more than his i believe...
Trix?
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by joust75
Unfortunately you feel no difference because there is no difference.

As Many will tell you , the stock setup is very good as is, If not better than most aftermarket items.

My friend put the Injen on his car and lost HP. Probably just variations of temperature on the day of the dyno but still on most cars an intake will always net you some power.

You should have searched the forums before you bought. It is common knowledge here that the JWT Pop charger is the only intake upgrade that consistently makes power.

Bought to buy one soon. I just had to say nice quote.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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Of course you can't feel nothing 3 - 6 hp isn't going to feel like much on your butt. Dyno will tell you the difference.
CAI's are just a tease to encourage you to buy more junk so that you will feel the difference.
Save your bucks and buy a TT or supercharger with intercooler because with exhaust/CAI/plenum/pulleys/hi flow cats/headers/grounding kits/cams/light weight fly wheels/clutches, you are wasting your money.
All of that doesn't amount to crap when you go against a dude with a intercooled TT or SC.
If you can do both, then DAMN!!!
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 09:35 PM
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Well.. my point was that if you go up to a another Z with a intercooled TT or SC, even if you have all the upgrades, he will still stomp you into the ground.

Not that his car will still run later.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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BTW... But from what I've heard, NOS is a good thing for those grudge matches.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by dave079
Not everyone wants to put a TT or SC on their car. First off is reliability issues. 2nd a turbo with everything added together can add up to well over 10k. With all those N/A mods you listed you will definately have a faster Z. Its not exactly a waste.
Not a waste of parts but a waste of time.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 10:12 PM
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SC's or turbos will give you all that with less effort.
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 01:48 AM
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okay, so how do i reste TB setting~??
.....??? .......... ???

ppl w/ injen plz talk loud, they r all pop charger fans.... = =lll

lol



Turbo~~?? Sure!!! if i got money
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 02:52 AM
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Here are the ECU and TB resetting procedures:

http://www.technosquareinc.com/350reset.htm
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 03:01 AM
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I have money, but I have focused on N/A only mods for now and believe me the car is a lot faster and more important a lot more fun to drive. Sure, a TT or SC would yield more power for the dollars spent, but there have been a lot of blown engines and cars in and out of the shop regularly. Mine is a daily driver and very reliable. FI tuning on these cars is moving along rather quick and so is competition, which means prices will continue to drop nicelyand reliability will increase. I also think a crazy TT or SC setup with too much power is nearly useless on the 1/4 mile or track. With a well planned and put together N/A approach, the car is definately more drivable.
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