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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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Okay, almost have my full exhaust system upgraded from the headers back. The finishing step: getting rid of the stock cats.

I've been looking around at products, and I have 3 finalists.

1) Kinetix High Flow Cats
2) Stillen "Race Pipes"
3) APS Cat Delete Pipes

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1) which is the best in terms of HP gains?
2) which will improve my car's sound the best? Right now I have dual stillen catback, and they sound pretty good. I heard that the stillen race pipes add a kind of raspy sound but they give nice power though...
3) maybe some truth to the rumor- a friend told me, high flow cats are a safer alternative to cat delete pipes, because if the car is inspected and there are no cats on it, it will be impounded. True/False? How easy is it to get around this?
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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test pipes will be noticeably louder and provide the most power. Cats will be much quieter, give a noticeable improvement vs the stock cats, but not quite the punch of test pipes

We use and offer the Ultimate Racing cats ourselves and could not be happier with them

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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Your gonna get a bad raspy sound when you take off the stock cats and go with test pipes [ pipes are pipes go with some cheaper ones ] Crawfors ,Ultimate , and Kinetics make good cats . There are pipes with resonaters that will get rid of most of the rasp and still be higher flowing than any of the cats
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by Z1 Performance
test pipes will be noticeably louder and provide the most power. Cats will be much quieter, give a noticeable improvement vs the stock cats, but not quite the punch of test pipes

About how large is the difference between pipes and cats in terms of HP?
Im still torn between the two. I guess it depends on which weighs out the other- how much more power the pipes put out over cats, and how much better cats sound vs pipes.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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hp wise - a could at most..its not going to be a HUGE difference. For me personally, the sound of test pipes is too much to bear, so the high flow cats were the only choice. All depends on what you are willing to live with.

If it were me though, I might look into ditching your Borla headers and going with something more power producing
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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how much is the sound difference between stock cats and hiflow cats?
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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depends on the brand. On m Ultimate Racing ones, they were a tad louder at WOT
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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Hey Z1, I tried sending you a PM because I had a question for you, but your PM box is full...
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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hang 2 secs I'll clean it out
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by dave079
I would go with Kinetix resonated test pipes. They are test pipes with resonators welded around them. No rasp, no restriction, and they sound great. Cant beat that for $370
whats the difference between those and the Kinetix high flow cats?
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by dave079
High flow cats will have a little less flow due to the honeycomb material still being in them. Resonated test pipes are just straight pipes on the inside with resonators welded on the outside of them. Same as test pipes with almost zero rasp. I have them and love them
How is the sound on the Kinetix resonated test pipes vs the Kinetix high flow cats? Any other companies that make resonated test pipes?
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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I've heard that the kinetix resonated pipes don't fit well. True? Anyone know if Unlimited Tuning has their pipes out yet?
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 05:41 AM
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La Bree motorsports makes a good test pipe with resonators
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 06:27 AM
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i hvae my kinetix test pipes with the in-line resonator intalled at the same time i installed nismo catback exhaust .... and i think ..( i repeat i think) i do get the raspy sound ... i can hear clearly at about 3K when releaseing the throttle .... BUT i don't know if its coming from the kinetix? or from the nismo???

about the fitting, it was a Good fit without any difficulty
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I dont think any [ I could be wrong ] Of the resonated test pipes will get rid of all the rasp . I went from RT cats [rasp ] Gutted RT cats [ bad rasp ] to LaBree resonated pipes [ little rasp ] to Crawford cats.....No rasp and a good sound from them
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 06:45 AM
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how about the new helix hi-flow cats. any thoughts on those?
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