ricka

Thanks I guess I better relax and get to work. I am taking my car back tomorrow morning because of the tire wear and now when I turn the wheel doesn't respond evenly (it's tight on a turn then loosens) I can't beleive I have to do so much sh*t 4 this car. I bought a F150 at the same time and haven't had (1) one issue.

cal_z

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ihave an f-150; and in comparison it is the smoothes ride that i have. After a day on the motorcycle or a night in the Z, I love to relax in the truck.

Boomer

What an indictment, the truck is smoother than the Z. Incredible.

overZealous

I've made a few changes to 350zbuyerguide.com

It's still a work in progess and far from finished but the home page has a new graphic which, I believe, acurately demonstrates the 350Z tire problem.

CottonWoodz

That is the most misleading info I have read....

That is your basis on the feathering problem? Are you somekind of engineering god? So its a suspension problem? Its because of the bounce right? What kind of tests did you perform to come to this conclusion? Cause its kind of funny that after my TSB alinment, I have NOT had a feathering problem after 12K+ miles..



So my rear wheels on my lude must of bounced like that, cause they used to feather too....Funny I never change the suspension setup on that neither..

AmyCroft

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https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=57565

It is pretty simple - Nissan has lied to us. As consumers it must be each owners resposibility to complain.

This car is a time consuming issue for each buyer.

The Nissan company sold the car to us, and has lied about it's capability.

The term is Estopoll

Thats all

Amy

CottonWoodz

OK your a stock holder for Nissan North America... Nothing like bashing a product you have money invested in...LOL
Give me a break, I have heard it all now..Stock holders bitchin about the feathering problem..

PGH350z

Er... . I'm glad you no longer have the problem, I am overjoyed for your good fortune...really. But: many MANY other people still do have the problem, even after several TSBs, this is a solid fact, there are 106 pages of it.

Do you have anything worthy to contribute to this thread, other than bashing other people's posts and crying "There is no problem, all is well"? If not, do us the favor and please hold your peace.

ChinaClipper

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So that is why you have a grudge against TX guys?
Seriously Steve Z, Blue Daytona is really Chazzg. Please PM him, as he frequents these boards, but not this thread, and he has been looking to return your antenna since the show ended.

Sincerely, ANOTHER TX Z owner & NH Convention-goer on this forum,

overZealous

The bouncing wheel is sort of a joke. Duh! There is nothing on that site at this time that states that I have any idea what is causing the problem. Only that Nissan has not fixed it. There is nothing misleading on that site either. If you think so then specifically what is misleading? If you don't have feathering, have stock tires and suspension, and have 12k miles since the TSB, prove it and post a close up of your inner and outer tread blocks so we can all see.

kbsig106

Amen.... I'm a living example of the flagship problems with the Z - just look at my tag line. I'm living my expirence like an open book.


The is def. a problem with the design of the car. NNA has been way too quiet for me to believe otherwise.

only1

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Well after going to 4 dealers, talking with the district manager of bridgestone, 3 calls to Nissan of America, and all them not agreeing to replace my tires and admitting their problem, I am going to sell my Brick. I love the car, but I am not paying 500-600 every 6 months for new tires. I am going to have to purchase new tires before I sell it so should i buy the same tires, or am I able to put the Mich Pilot Sports on the front only?

overZealous

Why sell it and take a beating? Have you met the threshold for filing under lemon law of your state. If not just take it in 3 times. If they refuse to fix it then you've satisfied the condition. It would not be very hard to demonstrate that this is a problem with the Z that Nissan should be responsible for. Their TSB's alone should be proof enough of that. Good luck what ever your choice.

kbsig106

Nissan conducted the Final Fla. LL repair on 1/5/03 (feathering, crooked steering wheel and drifting to the right). Problems have since resurfaced with the clicking from the right rear. I spoke with the NNA tech and the NNA LL rep via 3-way and the tech agreed that he heard the "clicking" sound during the final repair - but since I didn't list it on the LL case file, he didn't fix it. I went on to explain that I wasn't being extremely picky, but if he wanted to push the issue - I'll be happy to make a list of the current problems that I'm "over-looking" IE: mirror rattle - to which I asked him if he heard it.... answer was yes but since I didn't ask for it to be repaired - they didn't. He also stated they weren't going to make the car brand new for me.

On 10/31 they re-torqued my rear axel assembly. Two days ago the very same clicking sound returned and the rear end came loose in less than three months. This will be my 2nd repair of the rear axel - if it comes loose again I'll LL their a$$ for that repair also.

The NNA tech stated that the right side alignment numbers have to be higher than the left? Why? He also explained that the caster/camber and toe on the right which were set above the MAX were within spec. This tells me they're trying to set the right side above the max settings just to keep her straight.

In the end I told them I was disappointed with the way they were handling this problem. I told them NNA needs to step up to the plate and make this right - period. I also told them that it looks extremely fishy that they would change the suspension on the 2004.5 for "ride comfort and quality".... Of course I stressed the word "quality" because what I have is junk.

only1

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I have taken it in 3 times to the dealer for the tire feathering. They have performed the alignment, but my tires are so bad, there is nothing that can be done to reapir them except replace the tires. It even took them 5 hours to balance the tires the other day because they were in such bad shape. What would the lemon law acheive...new tires...new car? Can you give me information about it?

overZealous

Certainly new tires at the very least. If you've satisfied the criteria for your State and file a case or send the certified letter to Nissan notifying them of your intent to file as the case may be, and giving them a final attempt to repair the vehicle, it sounds like they would have no choice but to replace the tires or loose the case by default. Laws and procedures vary by State and there has already been alot of info posted on this subject. If it were me I would bypass the BBB arbitration and all of that garbage and just get an attorney. Nissan can also be sued under Federal law (Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act) where legal fees are recoverable if they are not otherwise recoverable under your State's Lemon Law. Thus many lawfirms will take your case with no out of pocket expense to you. You must have the documentation to support your case though. Three work orders, for example, showing that the car was serviced for the feathering problem. Get your documents and supporting materials in order, get an attorney, and you can easily prevail. Nissan's own TSB's are fairly incriminating. But above all, never take legal advice from some Internet guy named overZealous who you've never met. If you think you have a case consult with an attorney. They'll ask you for certain documents and if they think you have a case they will do all of the work for you on Nissan's dime.

bkusnir

Got my car back again today. They would not re-align the front suspension (even though my steering wheel is crooked) because it is within the specifications. I asked them if they would set it to the preferred 2MM of toe-in with no toe-out, my service advisor attached the new TSB to the work order, but claims that they will not adjust the alignment if the machine reports it is within specification. Maybe this is what they are doing, instead of specifically setting the toe-in to 2MM. Anyway, they are also trying to tell me that my off-center steering wheel is within 'acceptable' limits. **** that... I am requesting for them to send me all of the printouts for the alignments that they have performed (they are required to keep them for legal/insurance reasons). I will be taking the car first to a different Nissan dealership, and then to an independant alignment specialist or anything like a Just Brakes or something where I can poke my head in and get some feedback from a mechanic.

boxsterkiller

I feel for everybody in this post. I just got my two front tires replaced been waiting since sept.03 were back ordered nation wide. How long until I see the cupping /feathering. I also had some lower control arm changed. I'm a pre-order Z owner with all the problem as well. Have a big-*** stack of repair slips and special order parts slips. and a lot or scratches and marred panels and broken clips.

hwj

Autoweek is looking for our comments for their Long-Term test of the 350Z in the test fleet now.

I saw the request in this week's edition [Jan. 26th] on page 13.

We should all email them and let them know what's going on. Their address is: autofile@crain.com

An opportunity that shouldn't be missed!

navybulldog68

Thanks for the info. I just went to that site and read there review of the Z. I also wrote the editor a letter. I am now suspecting my dealer didnt realign my car when they changed my tires. I asked the service advisor today for a copy of the alignment specs, he says they are in the computer, but hes not allowed to give them to me. I think this smells like a cover up. what do you guys think, am I paranoid or what?