Notices
Maintenance & Repair 350Z up keep and diagnosing/fixing problems

Recommendation: flush your clutch fluid

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 22, 2003 | 10:17 AM
  #1  
John's Avatar
John
Thread Starter
...
Premier Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,869
Likes: 1
From: San Diego, CA
Default Recommendation: flush your clutch fluid

Well, I've been eyeing my clutch fluid over the past few months, and that DOT3 brake fluid has always looked pretty nasty. I've noticed that when the car gets hot (or it's hot outside), the clutch engages lower, and the pedal felt a bit spongey. So when the dealer swapped out my tranny, I asked them to flush the clutch fluid. The difference was night and day, and the car feels good as new.

Flushing the clutch fluid normally isn't listed under normal maintenance, but if you want to keep a reliable clutch master cylinder and slave cylinder, the flush the fluid (15K miles, 10K miles if you track your car).
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2003 | 11:41 AM
  #2  
elektrik_juggernaut's Avatar
elektrik_juggernaut
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,962
Likes: 0
Default

So since he flushed it, that means it was bled then........interesting
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2003 | 12:15 PM
  #3  
John's Avatar
John
Thread Starter
...
Premier Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,869
Likes: 1
From: San Diego, CA
Default

Flush, bleed, same difference.
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2003 | 01:10 PM
  #4  
Buub's Avatar
Buub
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 530
Likes: 0
From: Kirkland, WA (Seattle)
Default

Did you put in a higher-temp brake fluid? If so, which brake fluid did you choose?
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2003 | 01:40 PM
  #5  
John's Avatar
John
Thread Starter
...
Premier Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,869
Likes: 1
From: San Diego, CA
Default

I contemplated putting in some DOT4 (like the ATE Super Blue), but just had the OEM DOT3 fluid Nissan uses put in. I need to do some research to see if other people have put a higher-temp brake fluid into their clutch hydraulic system.
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 07:41 PM
  #6  
jackwhale's Avatar
jackwhale
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 694
Likes: 0
From: Alamo, CA
Default

I have already flushed/bled the clutch hydraulics with ATE Blue when I flushed/bled my brakes. I just impulsively changed it without any research. I just assumed....(that has gotten me in trouble in the past)...Please post the results of your research if you find out anything about this.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2003 | 10:12 AM
  #7  
John's Avatar
John
Thread Starter
...
Premier Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,869
Likes: 1
From: San Diego, CA
Default

I've been asking around, and thus far the consensus is that since the clutch hydraulic system likely uses the same material in the seals as the brake system, any type of clutch fluid should suffice. I'm inclined to put in some ATE Super Blue next time I change the clutch fluid. Did you bleed the system yourself or did you have someone else do it? I don't have the FSM, so if you have the time could you provide a brief synopsis on the procedure?
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 11:48 AM
  #8  
mwaller's Avatar
mwaller
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 524
Likes: 0
From: Kirkland,WA
Default

Can anyone describe the location of the bleed valve for the clutch cylinder? I took a brief look under the hatch where the hatch that houses the brake and clutch cylinders, but I didn't see a nipple. Where is it?
Thanks!
Mika
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 01:45 PM
  #9  
jackwhale's Avatar
jackwhale
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 694
Likes: 0
From: Alamo, CA
Default

I have used ATE super blue for brakes and clutch...no problem.

I think that avoiding synthetic fluids is still true because of the effect on the seals etc.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 01:49 PM
  #10  
jackwhale's Avatar
jackwhale
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 694
Likes: 0
From: Alamo, CA
Default

I didn't realize how old this thread was. I see that I posted last summer after changing my fluids
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2004 | 01:53 PM
  #11  
myz8a4re's Avatar
myz8a4re
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,056
Likes: 0
From: bradenton florida
Default

is the bleeder valve located on the slave cylinder? since it is a hydraulic clutch would it be bleed like a regular clutch? i remember back when i had my 1st n/a 300z my buddy went to bleed my clutch & the pedal fell to the floor & wouldnt come up. we had to send it to a shop to get bled correctly. any info would be appreciated, id like to bleed my clutch this weekend.....

-justin
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 04:59 PM
  #12  
Losing Grip II's Avatar
Losing Grip II
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 630
Likes: 0
From: Naples,Fl
Default

i think u should watch out for the super blue fluid. i used it in my S2000 and RSX and had premature clutch slave clyinder failure. unless u have solid lines it can actually hurt the system. i use OEM brands. cant really go wrong with OEM.

i havent used any other brand besides ATE super blue but am inclined to try something less damaging. anyone know of another good brand besides super blue?

john
Reply
Old May 28, 2005 | 05:26 PM
  #13  
Skrill's Avatar
Skrill
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 455
Likes: 0
From: Nashville, TN
Default

I am bringing back the dead -- I boiled my clutch fluid at the track (I think). Here is the full story on that ...

https://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-drivetrain/125149-anyone-ever-boiled-their-clutch-fluid-help-long.html

At least for me -- with these narly Crawford Headers -- the stock DOT3 fluid does not seem to be an option. Has anyone further explored the use of DOT4 fluids like ATE SuperBlue and Motul RPF 600?

Also -- is there a write up anywhere on how to do the bleed/flush? If not, how is it done?
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 02:25 PM
  #14  
corsair's Avatar
corsair
New Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,097
Likes: 1
From: Northern California
Default

Originally Posted by Losing Grip II
i think u should watch out for the super blue fluid. i used it in my S2000 and RSX and had premature clutch slave clyinder failure. unless u have solid lines it can actually hurt the system. i use OEM brands. cant really go wrong with OEM.

i havent used any other brand besides ATE super blue but am inclined to try something less damaging. anyone know of another good brand besides super blue?

john

Bump. I just had my system flushed with ATE Super Blue and your statements above are making me a little nervous. Anyone else have any issues with ATE Super Blue Brake Fluid?
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 06:13 PM
  #15  
yeperra's Avatar
yeperra
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Hayward, Ca.
Default

I usually suck out what I can with a pump and refill it. Not as good as a complete flush and bleed but works for me. I do the brakes that way too. What doesn't get replaced can just mix with the rest of the new fluid. I figure that by doing it more often (once a year) it says cleaner and gets rid of most of the moisture and I don't have to bleed and get it all over my Brembos. I use DOT3.
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:31 AM
  #16  
BriGuyMax's Avatar
BriGuyMax
Turbo Whore
Premier Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,303
Likes: 1
From: West suburbs of Chi-town
Default

Originally Posted by yeperra
I usually suck out what I can with a pump and refill it. Not as good as a complete flush and bleed but works for me. I do the brakes that way too. What doesn't get replaced can just mix with the rest of the new fluid. I figure that by doing it more often (once a year) it says cleaner and gets rid of most of the moisture and I don't have to bleed and get it all over my Brembos. I use DOT3.

The most worn out fluid with the most crap and water in it is all the way down in the calipers themselves...just sucking the fluid out of the res. does virtually nothing.
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:19 PM
  #17  
yeperra's Avatar
yeperra
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Hayward, Ca.
Default

It would seem that with the turbulant flow of the fluid it must get mixed. If it didn't then the fluid in the resivior would not look cloudy or contaminated. By replacing and I'm guessing at least 50% of the old fluid it has to help. I realize that is not as good as a complete draining and purging of the lines before refilling and bleeding but is much better than doing nothing at all. This obviously does not work if your changing the type of fluid your using.
Reply
Old May 31, 2006 | 09:26 AM
  #18  
daveh's Avatar
daveh
Registered User
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,151
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default

http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/wol...TSPECSHEET.pdf

Instructions on bleeding your clutch. It is copied from the FSM.
I just got a new tranny and I can not shift into first from a stop when the car is warm. I am going to flush it with some fresh motul.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
lapham3
Maintenance & Repair
8
Oct 7, 2022 03:15 PM
sherm
Engine & Drivetrain
15
Apr 11, 2020 05:21 PM
EnjukuRacing
Engine
0
Sep 30, 2015 06:55 AM
SharX59
VQ35HR
5
Sep 27, 2015 09:23 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:33 PM.