p0300 Misfire Troubleshooting
#21
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Don't take this the wrong way, it's great you're doing this and you seem to have good mechanical and electrical skills but... you're doing things in the wrong order and making it way too hard.
If you had done the power balance test first you would know not to bother with all the other things you've tested. And tearing it down again and again might make more issues.
If you really want to figure it out you need a scanner with that reads the OEM datastream to read each cylinders misfire counters, these are as cheap as $100 these days. The scanner will also have the freeze frame for when the P0300 code is being set, this is a snapshot of the datastream before and after the code trigger. Looking through that you can find clues to the root cause of the problem.
I checked through IATN.net's repair archives. Over 20 similar cases w/ vq35de, head gaskets, AF sensors, leaking plenum gaskets, valvetrain issue, no common problem that jumps out.
If you need any ALLDATA wiring diagrams or stuff I can get that at work.
If you had done the power balance test first you would know not to bother with all the other things you've tested. And tearing it down again and again might make more issues.
If you really want to figure it out you need a scanner with that reads the OEM datastream to read each cylinders misfire counters, these are as cheap as $100 these days. The scanner will also have the freeze frame for when the P0300 code is being set, this is a snapshot of the datastream before and after the code trigger. Looking through that you can find clues to the root cause of the problem.
I checked through IATN.net's repair archives. Over 20 similar cases w/ vq35de, head gaskets, AF sensors, leaking plenum gaskets, valvetrain issue, no common problem that jumps out.
If you need any ALLDATA wiring diagrams or stuff I can get that at work.
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I'm having the same issue with p0300 and some other codes. Started happening about 2 weeks after turbo install. I have no cats. But I do have new injectors, spark plugs and fuel pump. Sometimes it has trouble starting and I have to pump the gas. And sometime the engine will just stall while I'm driving. The cel clears itself sometimes and will end up coming back.
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They all look similar but the top image the 2 plugs on the right look darker than all the rest. Of course they won't be black because the car will run mostly around stoich but they seem just a little more tan.
I can't see the ground strap very well on them. The center electrode looks kind of rounded off and worn on most of them which indicates some wear. Without seeing them in person or an upclose high res picture it would be hard to find problems. Also since the misfire happens on occasion and not every single engine cycle they will burn off some of that excess fuel if it there is fuel build up.
I can't see the ground strap very well on them. The center electrode looks kind of rounded off and worn on most of them which indicates some wear. Without seeing them in person or an upclose high res picture it would be hard to find problems. Also since the misfire happens on occasion and not every single engine cycle they will burn off some of that excess fuel if it there is fuel build up.
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Don't take this the wrong way, it's great you're doing this and you seem to have good mechanical and electrical skills but... you're doing things in the wrong order and making it way too hard.
If you had done the power balance test first you would know not to bother with all the other things you've tested. And tearing it down again and again might make more issues.
If you really want to figure it out you need a scanner with that reads the OEM datastream to read each cylinders misfire counters, these are as cheap as $100 these days. The scanner will also have the freeze frame for when the P0300 code is being set, this is a snapshot of the datastream before and after the code trigger. Looking through that you can find clues to the root cause of the problem.
I checked through IATN.net's repair archives. Over 20 similar cases w/ vq35de, head gaskets, AF sensors, leaking plenum gaskets, valvetrain issue, no common problem that jumps out.
If you need any ALLDATA wiring diagrams or stuff I can get that at work.
If you had done the power balance test first you would know not to bother with all the other things you've tested. And tearing it down again and again might make more issues.
If you really want to figure it out you need a scanner with that reads the OEM datastream to read each cylinders misfire counters, these are as cheap as $100 these days. The scanner will also have the freeze frame for when the P0300 code is being set, this is a snapshot of the datastream before and after the code trigger. Looking through that you can find clues to the root cause of the problem.
I checked through IATN.net's repair archives. Over 20 similar cases w/ vq35de, head gaskets, AF sensors, leaking plenum gaskets, valvetrain issue, no common problem that jumps out.
If you need any ALLDATA wiring diagrams or stuff I can get that at work.
#32
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Would you mind pointing out a code reader that does what you are talking about? I already have a medium priced Innova that does live data and datalogging but never have seen misfire counters. This one is at least 5 years old. Maybe I need to update the firmware or maybe I need a more modern scanner Can you give me a hint so I can help myself? I am reading all of these threads on misfires and not getting very far like most people! Need to take advice that saves the time I don't have right now!
Don't all OBD systems have to have the misfire counters in there? I'm just buying the wrong scanner right?
#33
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I am just not having luck with this one part. My head must be really thick on this one! I have performed a few of the 19 tests in the FSM but want to attack it instead with either a power balance test or misfire counter analysis because I can see how helpful that would be and save so much time and guessing. I now have another mid priced scanner that probably needs to be returned. I had a Innova 3130 that has been OK until this P0300 came up and I bought a Centech 60694/Autel Al519 today because it says that is supports all 10 Modes of OBDII data but it just seems like the same data from the 3130 displayed in a different way. I still have no access to raw or stored misfire counters per cylinder that I can find! I realize that this route would be much easier than working my way through all of the 19 or so tests in the FSM but I'm struggling to find the correct tool. I am open to software too instead of a handheld. Whatever is cheaper/best bang for my buck. Probably under $300
Don't all OBD systems have to have the misfire counters in there? I'm just buying the wrong scanner right?
Don't all OBD systems have to have the misfire counters in there? I'm just buying the wrong scanner right?
If I pay Nissan to do a power balance test will it only reveal something if it is misfiring (whether I can feel it or not)? Or is that test sensitive enough to detect power imbalance at the level that you could not feel on your own and be worth the money?
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Hi ...Hope you got your problem sorted...Would you mind telling me wot you did to get them sorted, coz I'm xperiencing the same...Thanx.... ps...This is for BLAKMAX
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I'm having the same issue with p0300 and some other codes. Started happening about 2 weeks after turbo install. I have no cats. But I do have new injectors, spark plugs and fuel pump. Sometimes it has trouble starting and I have to pump the gas. And sometime the engine will just stall while I'm driving. The cel clears itself sometimes and will end up coming back.
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So I'm having the same code, i have greddy true duel exhaust, I have an 04 track, I can literally here the misfire only happening on the driver side which makes things a little bit easier for me. I'm in NY and I have heard that there are issues with the knock sensor for most nissan's in the cold, most times with the ignition coil you should get more than one code and the rpms should dance a little bit, not always but sometimes. I'm going to change my driver side knock sensor, I'll keep you all updated and let you know how it goes, fingers crossed.
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And just as a side note on top of the p0300 code my car is bogging pretty bad under normal driving conditions, but at WOT the car feels fine, as well as when i start the car after it is at operating temp the rpm's drop and the car almost stalls, it idles fine though, just a little low between 400 to 600. if anyone possibly has any other possibilities on what else might cause this it would be appreciated.
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Cats
My issue turned out to be a bad cat. The honeycomb separated from the interior of the cat and lodged itself sideways further down. New Berk HFCs solved my issues.
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