Dealer wants to "repair" transmission
Originally posted by Jeff@Performance
It's kind of strange this whole trans thing. In our store we wont rebuild them, just replace them. First it was replace the trans. Then they came out with the "pin" or "clevis" and it was replace trans and clevis. Next came the pedal assy and it was replace trans and pedal. Now it's back to trans only and make sure the clevis is the updated one. Everytime there seems to be a new generation trans involved. In the case of ssk0771 above, he has gone through all the fixes I've mentioned, each time installing the latest generation tranny. Luckily his is the exception as most seem to be fine now. Every so often you get that one car that just beats you to death as a dealer. ssk0771, make sure Javier hooks you up with Angel (our Nissan engineer) in Jan to see what can be done. Pure Tremble, still trying to find out what the inside difference between the latest generation trans and yours are.
It's kind of strange this whole trans thing. In our store we wont rebuild them, just replace them. First it was replace the trans. Then they came out with the "pin" or "clevis" and it was replace trans and clevis. Next came the pedal assy and it was replace trans and pedal. Now it's back to trans only and make sure the clevis is the updated one. Everytime there seems to be a new generation trans involved. In the case of ssk0771 above, he has gone through all the fixes I've mentioned, each time installing the latest generation tranny. Luckily his is the exception as most seem to be fine now. Every so often you get that one car that just beats you to death as a dealer. ssk0771, make sure Javier hooks you up with Angel (our Nissan engineer) in Jan to see what can be done. Pure Tremble, still trying to find out what the inside difference between the latest generation trans and yours are.
thanks Jeff, You alway been a big help.
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Re: Dealer wants to "repair" transmission
Originally posted by Pure Tremble
Girl in service department said one other Z had the same thing and they fixed it the way they'll be doing mine
opinions? suggestions?
Girl in service department said one other Z had the same thing and they fixed it the way they'll be doing mine
opinions? suggestions?
Re: Re: 4rth trans - repaired vs. Replace
Originally posted by ssk0771
Hey John,
How are you? How was your x-mas. I was with tony last saturday puting lights in his & my car.
My breaks are fine except it squeels when the car si moving slow.
by the way, I did get my tranny replaced at Performance Nissan both times.
I talk to Javier, the service rep and at this point he does not know what to do. Even NNA does not know what to do. I think Nissan engineers will be at Performance Nissan sometime in January so I am going to try to take to them.
Hey John,
How are you? How was your x-mas. I was with tony last saturday puting lights in his & my car.
My breaks are fine except it squeels when the car si moving slow.
by the way, I did get my tranny replaced at Performance Nissan both times.
I talk to Javier, the service rep and at this point he does not know what to do. Even NNA does not know what to do. I think Nissan engineers will be at Performance Nissan sometime in January so I am going to try to take to them.
Had a great Holiday.. And got to go to the Last Meet of 2003 at AutoBac's.
Now on the subject of the Trans:
Yes, I must reply to "VIC GRANT":
Hey VIC - This guy ssk0771 can drive an M3 with out a problem.
But the 350Z Grinds for him.
However Wld350Z ( Tony ) drove the car last weekend. His comments ( shortened ) indicated that the trouble ssk0771 was talking about is:
Hang on you'll like this.
The replacement Pedal Assembly was, to put it in the vernacular - felt like a sponge. Using the new soft pedal made the Z feel like an early 510 Sedan. Or POS in newest terms.
In effect - unlike a regular Z - you can't feel the Clutch contact point. Very odd. Normally it is very high, but predictable.
Syncro Shifting, the transmission worked like any other. Period.
This leads "One" to believe the problem ( ssk0771) is when the clutch is depressed, the Flywheel and Through out bearing is occilating.
I did now drive ssk0771's car but can recommend that Jeff or Jason drive it. And yes when NNA engineers come to Performance in Duarte, that his car be inspected on a city drive.
( Most likely an alignment from the flywheel bushing to the input spline of the transmission )
Back to this reply to ssk0771:
The Ceramic pads will squeek a bit cold. But don't worry - Low Dust and long life.
On Javier's sorting out, he may be protective of the Agency, however he is passing the collected data upstream.
He is communicating. He is doing his Job.
His job is to help the customer, not to make the customer feel like ****.
If a problem ( mildly abrasive ) , See his boss Bob.
Soapbox Coming Warning.
Better communications will be required, between the dealer and NNA, to make the "Street" problems be entered into a "Nissan Factory" database so that the Feedback Loop during Globalization concept can be retained. Just because Nissan has lessen thier debt, and purchased the companies related to manufacturing. They should not raise CamPai. yet. The battle is yet to be won.
Overview:
Soapbox ON
The 350Z was to be a revitailization and an asset to Nissan's Product line. The lack of co-ordination between NNA and Nissan Repair Centers is now quite obvious.
NNA to Nissan Manufacturing now needs an revolution. Very similar to the "Cultural Revolution". Chairman Mao was pushed to make real the promise made to the People of China. He did that by over guiding the young students to replace the complacent middle managers.
Soapbox OFF
As a Stock Holder and promoter of NNA and Nissan Corporation, I would like to see a profit. Not today, Not tommorrow but in the long term.
Fix what you can, Push for better treatment, and up the establishment ! ( the people who say No ! ) They can change or they can be replaced.
Nissan car owners, if you are hesident to ask for better treatment, please remember the Nissan staff could go to Infiniti Training and most problems can be solved.
Cheers Amy
- Please tell me of Gramatica and Spelling errors
Re: Re: Re: 4rth trans - repaired vs. Replace
Originally posted by AmyCroft
ssk0771:
Had a great Holiday.. And got to go to the Last Meet of 2003 at AutoBac's.
Now on the subject of the Trans:
Yes, I must reply to "VIC GRANT":
Hey VIC - This guy ssk0771 can drive an M3 with out a problem.
But the 350Z Grinds for him.
However Wld350Z ( Tony ) drove the car last weekend. His comments ( shortened ) indicated that the trouble ssk0771 was talking about is:
Hang on you'll like this.
The replacement Pedal Assembly was, to put it in the vernacular - felt like a sponge. Using the new soft pedal made the Z feel like an early 510 Sedan. Or POS in newest terms.
In effect - unlike a regular Z - you can't feel the Clutch contact point. Very odd. Normally it is very high, but predictable.
Syncro Shifting, the transmission worked like any other. Period.
This leads "One" to believe the problem ( ssk0771) is when the clutch is depressed, the Flywheel and Through out bearing is occilating.
I did now drive ssk0771's car but can recommend that Jeff or Jason drive it. And yes when NNA engineers come to Performance in Duarte, that his car be inspected on a city drive.
( Most likely an alignment from the flywheel bushing to the input spline of the transmission )
Back to this reply to ssk0771:
The Ceramic pads will squeek a bit cold. But don't worry - Low Dust and long life.
On Javier's sorting out, he may be protective of the Agency, however he is passing the collected data upstream.
He is communicating. He is doing his Job.
His job is to help the customer, not to make the customer feel like ****.
If a problem ( mildly abrasive ) , See his boss Bob.
Soapbox Coming Warning.
Better communications will be required, between the dealer and NNA, to make the "Street" problems be entered into a "Nissan Factory" database so that the Feedback Loop during Globalization concept can be retained. Just because Nissan has lessen thier debt, and purchased the companies related to manufacturing. They should not raise CamPai. yet. The battle is yet to be won.
Overview:
Soapbox ON
The 350Z was to be a revitailization and an asset to Nissan's Product line. The lack of co-ordination between NNA and Nissan Repair Centers is now quite obvious.
NNA to Nissan Manufacturing now needs an revolution. Very similar to the "Cultural Revolution". Chairman Mao was pushed to make real the promise made to the People of China. He did that by over guiding the young students to replace the complacent middle managers.
Soapbox OFF
As a Stock Holder and promoter of NNA and Nissan Corporation, I would like to see a profit. Not today, Not tommorrow but in the long term.
Fix what you can, Push for better treatment, and up the establishment ! ( the people who say No ! ) They can change or they can be replaced.
Nissan car owners, if you are hesident to ask for better treatment, please remember the Nissan staff could go to Infiniti Training and most problems can be solved.
Cheers Amy -
Please tell me of Gramatica and Spelling errors
ssk0771:
Had a great Holiday.. And got to go to the Last Meet of 2003 at AutoBac's.
Now on the subject of the Trans:
Yes, I must reply to "VIC GRANT":
Hey VIC - This guy ssk0771 can drive an M3 with out a problem.
But the 350Z Grinds for him.
However Wld350Z ( Tony ) drove the car last weekend. His comments ( shortened ) indicated that the trouble ssk0771 was talking about is:
Hang on you'll like this.
The replacement Pedal Assembly was, to put it in the vernacular - felt like a sponge. Using the new soft pedal made the Z feel like an early 510 Sedan. Or POS in newest terms.
In effect - unlike a regular Z - you can't feel the Clutch contact point. Very odd. Normally it is very high, but predictable.
Syncro Shifting, the transmission worked like any other. Period.
This leads "One" to believe the problem ( ssk0771) is when the clutch is depressed, the Flywheel and Through out bearing is occilating.
I did now drive ssk0771's car but can recommend that Jeff or Jason drive it. And yes when NNA engineers come to Performance in Duarte, that his car be inspected on a city drive.
( Most likely an alignment from the flywheel bushing to the input spline of the transmission )
Back to this reply to ssk0771:
The Ceramic pads will squeek a bit cold. But don't worry - Low Dust and long life.
On Javier's sorting out, he may be protective of the Agency, however he is passing the collected data upstream.
He is communicating. He is doing his Job.
His job is to help the customer, not to make the customer feel like ****.
If a problem ( mildly abrasive ) , See his boss Bob.
Soapbox Coming Warning.
Better communications will be required, between the dealer and NNA, to make the "Street" problems be entered into a "Nissan Factory" database so that the Feedback Loop during Globalization concept can be retained. Just because Nissan has lessen thier debt, and purchased the companies related to manufacturing. They should not raise CamPai. yet. The battle is yet to be won.
Overview:
Soapbox ON
The 350Z was to be a revitailization and an asset to Nissan's Product line. The lack of co-ordination between NNA and Nissan Repair Centers is now quite obvious.
NNA to Nissan Manufacturing now needs an revolution. Very similar to the "Cultural Revolution". Chairman Mao was pushed to make real the promise made to the People of China. He did that by over guiding the young students to replace the complacent middle managers.
Soapbox OFF
As a Stock Holder and promoter of NNA and Nissan Corporation, I would like to see a profit. Not today, Not tommorrow but in the long term.
Fix what you can, Push for better treatment, and up the establishment ! ( the people who say No ! ) They can change or they can be replaced.
Nissan car owners, if you are hesident to ask for better treatment, please remember the Nissan staff could go to Infiniti Training and most problems can be solved.
Cheers Amy
- Please tell me of Gramatica and Spelling errors
Thank you very much - for my next number
And for my next number, I'll suggest what Nissan North America and Nissan.co.jp can do to get Americans to get better treatment from our company. The Globalized Nissan can be a reality!
Cheers Amy -
And for you Aussies too !
Cheers Amy
- And for you Aussies too !
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