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Old 04-05-2012, 12:15 AM
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Default HR + steep slope parking + oil starvation?

Hey guys,

Just curious. Moved into a new place and the driveway is very steep. Is there any chance of my oil pickup not being in sufficient oil upon startup in the mornings? Perhaps knowing the location of the pickup will help in deciding which direction is best to park it on the slope.
Old 04-05-2012, 12:43 AM
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Oil pick up is directly below the crank
Old 04-05-2012, 03:08 AM
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What kind of slope are you talking about 5º, 15º, 45º? I doubt the angle of any home driveway would be so excessive that the oil level in the pan would allow the pickup to not be submerged in oil.
Old 04-05-2012, 03:37 AM
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The pick up is in the front of the engine. There should be more than enough oil for it to get oil.
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With a stock pan the pickup should be submerged at all times.
Old 04-05-2012, 03:59 AM
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I have a 30-40 deg slope drive way at my house and I can start the Z up fine.
Old 04-05-2012, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Deteria
I have a 30-40 deg slope drive way at my house and I can start the Z up fine.
You are kidding right? 30-40 deg. It would be tough to walk up that incline.
Old 04-05-2012, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by goose30
You are kidding right? 30-40 deg. It would be tough to walk up that incline.
My old house had a drive way that steep but was flat at the top. I would never be able to get up that in 350Z though without ripping my bumper off.
Old 04-05-2012, 05:23 AM
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Just watch the pressure gauge when starting it. If you're starving it will either not rise or will take longer than usual.
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Originally Posted by goose30
You are kidding right? 30-40 deg. It would be tough to walk up that incline.
I'm not kidding. It is hard to walk up it. If I don't pull my e-brake very tight, car will roll back down. But it's just a slope about 1.5 length of the car lol. Also another reason why I didn't slam my car + get a lip.
Old 04-05-2012, 09:27 AM
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^goddamn lol. ive seen those before, theyre a pain in the *** to walk up in winter, not that youd know being in sunny texas and all lol
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I was afraid of getting the Z as my only car since every once n a while, it does freeze over, and people in TX don't deal too well with icy roads. Salt / Sand ruins the paint. Luckily this year, we didn't have "Winter" in TX. Kinda jumped from Fall to Spring. HELLO END OF THE WORLD 2012!

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Wouldn't worry about it. If there's people who own these cars in San Francisco, they should be good anywhere!
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I'm not kidding -it's pretty steep. Here are some pics.




Look at the far side of the driveway to compare to the wall. (the nearside with the grass also slopes up so not a fair comparison) Looks like about 40 deg to me more or less.




Think I'll rather play it safe and park this way. Also not happy with the stress this must put on the car's supension and brakes.

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Originally Posted by Doc_Z
Let's use a little geometry here instead of guessing. Look at the blocks that form the side wall, assuming they are square, you've got a rise of about 2.25 for a run of about 7.5 blocks. 2.25/7.5=0.30. Take Atan of than and you get about 16.7º.

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Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
Let's use a little geometry here instead of guessing. Look at the blocks that form the side wall, assuming they are square, you've got a rise of about 2.25 for a run of about 7.5 blocks. 2.25/7.5=0.30. Take Atan of than and you get about 16.7º.
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^ That's funny. I was going to suggest geometry but I wasn't sure of the block sizes. Still, eyeballing it, I was going to guess about 17° which is still steep as hell.
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Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
Let's use a little geometry here instead of guessing. Look at the blocks that form the side wall, assuming they are square, you've got a rise of about 2.25 for a run of about 7.5 blocks. 2.25/7.5=0.30. Take Atan of than and you get about 16.7º.

You're ignoring the row of blocks that disappears under/into the grass. So it's at least 3.25 blocks / 7.5.

Arctan (3.25/7.5) ~ 40deg

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No, I'm using the first row above the grass. It's parallel to the row that is buried so the angle is still the same.
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Originally Posted by Doc_Z
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Arctan (3.25/7.5) ~ 40deg
Huh?
Are you in radians and multiplied by ten for some reason? Anyway, it's not. It would be 23.4°
There's no way that it's anywhere near 45°. Even if it was 40° and your driveway was 15-20 feet long, the floor of your garage would be about 10 feet above the grade of the street.


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