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Old 01-31-2013, 04:33 PM
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Stance Coils lowered about finger flush

I dont think its perfect all the way around but i doubt that has anything to do with it.

SPC Rear camber arms

Grand touring wheels

18 F 19 R no spacers

275/30/19 Rear Nitto NT5
265/35/18 Front same tire

The place I went now afterwards I dont think He knew how to deal with a lowered Z with camber so let me know

Its a DD no track or drag just spirit driving

Thanks a lot for the help I dont have enough info or knowledge per say to give him the info he needs

Thanks for all the help
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:39 PM
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no expert but your rear camber is way off.. theres almost a degree difference.

i'll let the more knowledgeable chime in though.
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I know but idk what to tell him to fix it. Front tires are already so chopped sounds like a tractor trailer slowing down.
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If you want to fix the front camber, less for better tire wear, youll need adjustable upper control arms.

The rear probably needs spc toe bolts( or other brand). As you pull the camber in (less camber) you add (toe in) to that tire. He has the rear toe matched. Its just a guess but he might be at the limit of the toe adjustment and had to leave the higher neg camber setting on the right side. The SPC bolts will give some more adjustment for the toe so the rear camber can be matched better.
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Your toe is way way off. That is what is wearing down your tires. Specs for both front and rear toe are very similar...in the ball park of 0.03 - 0.09. Can't adjust front camber unless you get adjustable arms, but rear camber can be adjusted to an extent. With your being lower, I'd say an even -2* on each side would be much better than the uneven setup you have now. Sounds like you might need to invest in adjustable arms or bolts, though.

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Good call found spc bolts at z1 for 28$. Sold lol. What's the proper technique when adjusting camber as in max out x for y or wgat
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Ok so run -2 camber sounds good thanks
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
Ok so run -2 camber sounds good thanks
I'm not an expert on the amount of camber you should run, however, I know factory spec is around -1.5 to -1.7 or so. Being lower, nothing wrong with -2, but it matters what you're trying to do. I think I still have my Firestone sheet. I'll take a look at it when I get home.
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Do I need to perfect my ride height? As in make it Perfect all the way around which honestly I have no idea how I'm gonna do that
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Small changes that your talking about won't matter, but you do want your ride height set before you get aligned. If your daily driving only I would try to get back close to spec settings. That will give you the best tire wear.
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
Do I need to perfect my ride height? As in make it Perfect all the way around which honestly I have no idea how I'm gonna do that
If you are just trying to level out your car without making any major height adjustments, use the collars under the spring. IMO, do this with a full tank of gas so when your tank gets low you gain rake...opposed to adjusting your height on an empty tank and then you fill up your car, the rear will sit lower than the front.
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Full tank of gas check. What's the easiest way to get the ride height in all corners near perfect?

Also any align spec gurus chime in with numbers?
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I measure wheel/fender gap and raise/lower my collars the same measurement per corner.
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What are you lowered on? And good info that makes sense lol
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http://performance-suspension.eibach...r/pro-street-s

I don't care about things like "dampening," just want the adjustable ride height.
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Nice. This is my first lowered Z lol. 3rd Z though. Its a headache bc of the tire wear im getting the alignment idk how to get ok and the front tires are already ruined bc the choppyness
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When I had my Tein S-Techs (less than 1" drop) my alignment stayed in spec without aftermarket suspension components.
I see you have 275/30/19 in the rear which is around 1/2" shorter than stock tires meaning you can't raise the car back to stock height without having massive wheel gap. Also, if you have VDC you might see your SLIP light illuminate under spirited driving because your front and rear tires are almost the same height.
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Is this after he tryed to align it?
1 you need more adjustment to correct at least the camber. Your caster is also way off. but I'm sure you'll need expensive pieces to correct that.

2 I dont think the tech knows what hes doing. No matter what your toe should not be that far off.
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Ok, I have my Firestone alignment sheet here. I'm stock height, however, toe should be similar. I am at 0.09 left, 0.05 right for toe on the front and 0.07 left, 0.10 right for toe in the rear. Yours is insanely higher. As for camber, I'm at -1.9 left, -1.8 right in the rear. That's why I said -2 should work fine for you if you're not slammed.
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Jig I kidney get the same feeling. I have an alignment machine in my shop however I'm to low. But if someone can tell me what they should be and the procedure well try it here. Also the caster isn't correct at all.

Bmyles yes my car is pretty low. So we're not comparing apples to apples


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