Knock sensor location
#1
Knock sensor location
So I got the P0327 code for knock sensor. I did my reading and found that I should get the knock sensor, the sub-harness, and all of my intake manifold gaskets. So I have all of them and am in the process if replacing the sensor.
I have my upper and lower plenum off which is how many people say to replace the sensor. My issue now is that I don't see how to get to the sensor from here.
This first picture is for reference of what i have removed so far. I can see the baby blue connector through that little porthole in the front of the engine (second pic). But I can't find the other end of it.
Any advice is appreciated.
PS:I read from other people that injectors and fuel rails do not have to be removed to replace this sensor.
I have my upper and lower plenum off which is how many people say to replace the sensor. My issue now is that I don't see how to get to the sensor from here.
This first picture is for reference of what i have removed so far. I can see the baby blue connector through that little porthole in the front of the engine (second pic). But I can't find the other end of it.
Any advice is appreciated.
PS:I read from other people that injectors and fuel rails do not have to be removed to replace this sensor.
#3
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Yes, the baby blue connector in the valley is for the knock sensor. The sensor itself is secured by a single bolt, which you must loosen. The other end of that wire harness is a blue connector which goes somewhere around the passenger side of the block by the bellhousing.
When I did this the first time around, I left the intake manifold and the injectors in place so it's possible but not easy. It's much easier if you just take them off, which is only a few more bolts and nuts, and the only extra thing you'd need are gaskets that go between the heads and the intake manifold. It definitely helps if you have long reach tools that can access small areas, but not necessary if you end up taking more things apart.
When I did this the first time around, I left the intake manifold and the injectors in place so it's possible but not easy. It's much easier if you just take them off, which is only a few more bolts and nuts, and the only extra thing you'd need are gaskets that go between the heads and the intake manifold. It definitely helps if you have long reach tools that can access small areas, but not necessary if you end up taking more things apart.
#4
I'm trying not to remove the injectors. The bolt that is holding on the knok sensor, what's the best way to remove it? Through the porthole in the front of the engine?
And as far as the blue connector near the bell housing, is that best to remove from under the car or through the engine bay?
And as far as the blue connector near the bell housing, is that best to remove from under the car or through the engine bay?
#5
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Keep going, it's easy. I can't remember if the injectors have to be pulled or not, but a little dielectric grease on the seals will make them easy to re-install.
#6
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Figured there were plenty of info about this already.
It's really easy to replace. I didn't replace gaskets when I did mine and she runs perfectly fine. Of course 1 bolt holding the knock sensor on and one 10mm bolt holding the harness between motor and firewall. I just unbolted the 10 mm holding the harness on and relocated it for easier future access. I'd def go ahead and replace both KS and sub harness while you're in there-z1 has a nice one. No need to remove rails and Injectors.
It's really easy to replace. I didn't replace gaskets when I did mine and she runs perfectly fine. Of course 1 bolt holding the knock sensor on and one 10mm bolt holding the harness between motor and firewall. I just unbolted the 10 mm holding the harness on and relocated it for easier future access. I'd def go ahead and replace both KS and sub harness while you're in there-z1 has a nice one. No need to remove rails and Injectors.
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It's not like removing the injectors will hurt anything or a big job. It's just a few bolts and it pops out. You don't need to replace the o-rings.
I went through the back to reach the bolt.
Blue connect is easier to access from the bottom.
I went through the back to reach the bolt.
Blue connect is easier to access from the bottom.
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#9
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The injectors don't have to be removed. You do have to remove that lower runner though, which can be done while the injectors are still in it. You just have to be careful not to crimp any of your fuel lines.
#10
Well to my surprise, the manifold gasket set I ordered from OreillyAuto for this job came with the gaskets for the lower runner that hold the injectors. So I just went ahead and took the lower runner off and I am very happy i did so because the knock sensor is super easy to get to now.
Thanks for the help z-masters
Thanks for the help z-masters
#11
Well I changed out my knock sensor today and got everything finished up and back together.
While I was there I changed my spark plugs as well as valve covers and gaskets.
now that everything is back together my knock sensor code is now gone which is awesome. But now I have to go back and check my spark plugs and coils again because now i have a P0300 misfire code... It can't ever go right the first time
While I was there I changed my spark plugs as well as valve covers and gaskets.
now that everything is back together my knock sensor code is now gone which is awesome. But now I have to go back and check my spark plugs and coils again because now i have a P0300 misfire code... It can't ever go right the first time
#12
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Did you take extra care with the lower gaskets? Did you torque everything to spec?
You may have swapped 2 of the coil wires, I forget which ones now but it's easy to do.
You may have swapped 2 of the coil wires, I forget which ones now but it's easy to do.
#16
I am checking my coils and plugs now. It looks to me like all of my coil wires are correct. On the right side, one of the wires says 2 and another says 6, they are in the correct spot. And on the left side one wire says 1 and another says 5 and they are in the correct spots. So now I guess I just have to check the plug gaps?
EDIT: I was just about to pull out the coils and #3 was not plugged in all the way. Stupid mistake but I'm glad I think I found it
EDIT: I was just about to pull out the coils and #3 was not plugged in all the way. Stupid mistake but I'm glad I think I found it
Last edited by craig12895; 07-11-2014 at 11:30 AM.
#18
Yea I thought that.
Then I put the whole thing back together and my misfire issue is now fixed as well as my valve cover leaking issue.
HOWEVER... The main reason I did all of this was to fix the knock sensor code, which came back after a minute of driving. I haven't checked the code yet (I am in a few minutes) but I assume it's the same code for the knock sensor
EDIT: I just ran the codes, I now have 3 new ABS codes. C1131-Electric Throttle Control Abnormal C1115-Abnormal Signal C1143-Steering Angle Sensor Circuit. Since these 3 codes didn't come up before I am not sure where to start. From reading it sounds like a good place would be to start with cleaning my throttle body
Then I put the whole thing back together and my misfire issue is now fixed as well as my valve cover leaking issue.
HOWEVER... The main reason I did all of this was to fix the knock sensor code, which came back after a minute of driving. I haven't checked the code yet (I am in a few minutes) but I assume it's the same code for the knock sensor
EDIT: I just ran the codes, I now have 3 new ABS codes. C1131-Electric Throttle Control Abnormal C1115-Abnormal Signal C1143-Steering Angle Sensor Circuit. Since these 3 codes didn't come up before I am not sure where to start. From reading it sounds like a good place would be to start with cleaning my throttle body
Last edited by craig12895; 07-11-2014 at 07:37 PM.
#19
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Yea I thought that.
Then I put the whole thing back together and my misfire issue is now fixed as well as my valve cover leaking issue.
HOWEVER... The main reason I did all of this was to fix the knock sensor code, which came back after a minute of driving. I haven't checked the code yet (I am in a few minutes) but I assume it's the same code for the knock sensor
EDIT: I just ran the codes, I now have 3 new ABS codes. C1131-Electric Throttle Control Abnormal C1115-Abnormal Signal C1143-Steering Angle Sensor Circuit. Since these 3 codes didn't come up before I am not sure where to start. From reading it sounds like a good place would be to start with cleaning my throttle body
Then I put the whole thing back together and my misfire issue is now fixed as well as my valve cover leaking issue.
HOWEVER... The main reason I did all of this was to fix the knock sensor code, which came back after a minute of driving. I haven't checked the code yet (I am in a few minutes) but I assume it's the same code for the knock sensor
EDIT: I just ran the codes, I now have 3 new ABS codes. C1131-Electric Throttle Control Abnormal C1115-Abnormal Signal C1143-Steering Angle Sensor Circuit. Since these 3 codes didn't come up before I am not sure where to start. From reading it sounds like a good place would be to start with cleaning my throttle body
Look around for anything else that you may have unhooked or broken.
#20
Well it's not caked with crud. I could've visually see anything that was unplugged or not hooked up. I do this thing where when I work on something I cover each part I touched in blue painters tape and I don't see any tape in the engine bay.
The knock sensor code originaly showed up the same day that I installed headers and got an uprev tuner so my next attack is going to be unmarrying the tuner from my car and seeing of the code goes away
The knock sensor code originaly showed up the same day that I installed headers and got an uprev tuner so my next attack is going to be unmarrying the tuner from my car and seeing of the code goes away