Notices
Mid-Atlantic Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, Washington D.C.

Willing to give me a ride in your TURBO z?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 01:54 PM
  #21  
Nowell's Avatar
Nowell
National Z Club
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,178
Likes: 0
From: H Town
Default

Originally Posted by b4rstiwsnc
are you running methanol injection?
Nope
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:44 PM
  #22  
Integrity's Avatar
Integrity
Banned
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,028
Likes: 0
From: Columbia, Maryland
Default

Have you considered other forms of FI? I wouldn't suggest nitrous, but perhaps a procharger would work well for you? There's no question that turbos are the way to go for big power, but if your goal is only 360rwhp there are more reliable options available to you.
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:34 PM
  #23  
JohnnyHT's Avatar
JohnnyHT
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 183
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
Default

Have any of y'all tracked your car? (I don't mean straight lines either) If so, how was it? Powerband? Easy to handle?
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:44 PM
  #24  
Malikot's Avatar
Malikot
Thread Starter
Rice Rocket
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,213
Likes: 0
From: Rockville, MD
Default

Originally Posted by Integrity
Have you considered other forms of FI? I wouldn't suggest nitrous, but perhaps a procharger would work well for you? There's no question that turbos are the way to go for big power, but if your goal is only 360rwhp there are more reliable options available to you.
I was thinking about getting one instead but heard from people that they were alot less reliable than turbos. Is this true?
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 05:01 PM
  #25  
Integrity's Avatar
Integrity
Banned
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,028
Likes: 0
From: Columbia, Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by Malikot
I was thinking about getting one instead but heard from people that they were alot less reliable than turbos. Is this true?
I was having a hard time putting my thoughts into words to adequately answer your question. To simplify things, I went to superchargersonline.com and cut and paste their answer to your question. I think it makes much more sense then the dribble I was typing up;

"Reliability
In general, superchargers enjoy a substantial reliability advantage over the turbocharger. When a a turbo is shut off (i.e. when the engine is turned off), residual oil inside the turbo's bearings can be baked by stored engine heat. This, combined with the turbo's extremely high rpms (up to 150,000rpm) can cause problems with the turbo's internal bearings and can shorten the life of the turbocharger. In addition, many turbos require aftermarket exhaust manifolds, which are often far less reliable than stock manifolds.
"
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:50 PM
  #26  
Malikot's Avatar
Malikot
Thread Starter
Rice Rocket
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,213
Likes: 0
From: Rockville, MD
Default

Hmm, sounds good. Perhaps I'll go and look into it more. I'm gonna take my car down to Function:Tuned soon and ask them which one they recommend and the price difference. Thanks Integrity
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 09:11 PM
  #27  
TENGAI's Avatar
TENGAI
Registered User
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,528
Likes: 0
From: NoVA
Default

Originally Posted by Driven1
I went APS single (6spd) and hope to have it installed within the next few months. I wish it could be sooner but time isn't working in my favor for the next few months with other things going on.
Rob,

Hit me up when you get a chance. I've got a few things sitting around in the garage that I was going to use in my APS ST build plans. Namely a solution to keep boost nice and steady all the way to redline .

-Ryan
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2007 | 04:17 AM
  #28  
Alberto's Avatar
Alberto
Cranky FI Owner
Premier Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 34,715
Likes: 8
From: DMV
Default

Originally Posted by Integrity
I was having a hard time putting my thoughts into words to adequately answer your question. To simplify things, I went to superchargersonline.com and cut and paste their answer to your question. I think it makes much more sense then the dribble I was typing up;

"Reliability
In general, superchargers enjoy a substantial reliability advantage over the turbocharger. When a a turbo is shut off (i.e. when the engine is turned off), residual oil inside the turbo's bearings can be baked by stored engine heat. This, combined with the turbo's extremely high rpms (up to 150,000rpm) can cause problems with the turbo's internal bearings and can shorten the life of the turbocharger. In addition, many turbos require aftermarket exhaust manifolds, which are often far less reliable than stock manifolds.
"
Who shuts off their turbo car after running it hard? Thats the only way the above can happen of course they wouldnt say that, not like their biased or anything

Here is what I found on turbochargers.com

Originally Posted by turbochargers.com
Supercharges suck, and have weaksauce TQ. Not to mention the belt systems can prove to be a liability
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2007 | 07:38 AM
  #29  
dutchboy350Z's Avatar
dutchboy350Z
Finally some go
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 6,940
Likes: 3
From: Santa Barbara, CA
Default

Originally Posted by Alberto
Here is what I found on turbochargers.com
sure you did
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2007 | 01:47 PM
  #30  
Integrity's Avatar
Integrity
Banned
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,028
Likes: 0
From: Columbia, Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by Alberto
Who shuts off their turbo car after running it hard? Thats the only way the above can happen of course they wouldnt say that, not like their biased or anything

Here is what I found on turbochargers.com
Oh really? Here's what I found on AlbertoForgotHe'sOnlyTryingToMake360whp.com

You suck.




Seriously though, those problem with belts tend to happen with the larger superchargers, not the little **** that's available to the Z. With a ceiling of only 360whp, wouldn't you think a positive displacement supercharger set up would fit him perfectly? Isn't someone around here selling a slightly used Stage 4 Stillen?
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2007 | 05:37 AM
  #31  
Kirkster's Avatar
Kirkster
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 617
Likes: 0
From: Severn, ProMD
Default

Originally Posted by Integrity
Oh really? Here's what I found on AlbertoForgotHe'sOnlyTryingToMake360whp.com

You suck.

ROFL... I remember those days like it was only last year...
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2007 | 07:23 AM
  #32  
Alberto's Avatar
Alberto
Cranky FI Owner
Premier Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 34,715
Likes: 8
From: DMV
Default

360whp ceiling will never be touched with a Stillen, 320whp DJ would be lucky on a stage 4, and thats weaksauce. Keith already sold his Stage 4 anyways...turbo vs S/C-one isnt better for reliability, its just that turbo's get more "bad press" cuz its sooo easy to buy a $20 MBC turn up the boost and boom, suddenly turbo's arent reliable. Different powerbands, for different folks, me I love the turbo midrange TQ and nasty top end.
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2007 | 12:09 PM
  #33  
Malikot's Avatar
Malikot
Thread Starter
Rice Rocket
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,213
Likes: 0
From: Rockville, MD
Default

Man all these comments about ONLY 360whp and it being weaksause... I feel like noob for not wanting to go higher... yet. I'll break 400... Just not now.
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2007 | 01:59 PM
  #34  
superchargedg's Avatar
superchargedg
Damn Noobs
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,274
Likes: 2
From: timonium,md.
Default

Originally Posted by Integrity
Oh really? Here's what I found on AlbertoForgotHe'sOnlyTryingToMake360whp.com

You suck.




Seriously though, those problem with belts tend to happen with the larger superchargers, not the little **** that's available to the Z. With a ceiling of only 360whp, wouldn't you think a positive displacement supercharger set up would fit him perfectly? Isn't someone around here selling a slightly used Stage 4 Stillen?
Yep it,s sold and i am sure gonna mis that scream of the s/c(like when i scared the hell outta karl that night we all drank to much)but it,s time for something new . The quad turbonators just aint doing it anymore.
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2007 | 02:12 PM
  #35  
Integrity's Avatar
Integrity
Banned
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,028
Likes: 0
From: Columbia, Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by Alberto
360whp ceiling will never be touched with a Stillen, 320whp DJ would be lucky on a stage 4, and thats weaksauce. Keith already sold his Stage 4 anyways...turbo vs S/C-one isnt better for reliability, its just that turbo's get more "bad press" cuz its sooo easy to buy a $20 MBC turn up the boost and boom, suddenly turbo's arent reliable. Different powerbands, for different folks, me I love the turbo midrange TQ and nasty top end.
Actually the powerband factors into reliability as well. The surge that comes along with turbos can be quite harmful to an engine. And lets not forget which system is more prone to overboost. I still believe a supercharger set up is more reliable, however the OP has already raised his horsepower ceiling so I have to digress. There's no question which set up is better for making power.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
MM'08_350Z
VQ35HR
225
Apr 22, 2021 09:42 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:44 PM.