Willing to give me a ride in your TURBO z?
Have you considered other forms of FI? I wouldn't suggest nitrous, but perhaps a procharger would work well for you? There's no question that turbos are the way to go for big power, but if your goal is only 360rwhp there are more reliable options available to you.
Originally Posted by Integrity
Have you considered other forms of FI? I wouldn't suggest nitrous, but perhaps a procharger would work well for you? There's no question that turbos are the way to go for big power, but if your goal is only 360rwhp there are more reliable options available to you.
Originally Posted by Malikot
I was thinking about getting one instead but heard from people that they were alot less reliable than turbos. Is this true?
"Reliability
In general, superchargers enjoy a substantial reliability advantage over the turbocharger. When a a turbo is shut off (i.e. when the engine is turned off), residual oil inside the turbo's bearings can be baked by stored engine heat. This, combined with the turbo's extremely high rpms (up to 150,000rpm) can cause problems with the turbo's internal bearings and can shorten the life of the turbocharger. In addition, many turbos require aftermarket exhaust manifolds, which are often far less reliable than stock manifolds."
Hmm, sounds good. Perhaps I'll go and look into it more. I'm gonna take my car down to Function:Tuned soon and ask them which one they recommend and the price difference. Thanks Integrity
Originally Posted by Driven1
I went APS single (6spd) and hope to have it installed within the next few months. I wish it could be sooner but time isn't working in my favor for the next few months with other things going on.
Hit me up when you get a chance. I've got a few things sitting around in the garage that I was going to use in my APS ST build plans. Namely a solution to keep boost nice and steady all the way to redline
.-Ryan
Originally Posted by Integrity
I was having a hard time putting my thoughts into words to adequately answer your question. To simplify things, I went to superchargersonline.com and cut and paste their answer to your question. I think it makes much more sense then the dribble I was typing up;
"Reliability
In general, superchargers enjoy a substantial reliability advantage over the turbocharger. When a a turbo is shut off (i.e. when the engine is turned off), residual oil inside the turbo's bearings can be baked by stored engine heat. This, combined with the turbo's extremely high rpms (up to 150,000rpm) can cause problems with the turbo's internal bearings and can shorten the life of the turbocharger. In addition, many turbos require aftermarket exhaust manifolds, which are often far less reliable than stock manifolds."
"Reliability
In general, superchargers enjoy a substantial reliability advantage over the turbocharger. When a a turbo is shut off (i.e. when the engine is turned off), residual oil inside the turbo's bearings can be baked by stored engine heat. This, combined with the turbo's extremely high rpms (up to 150,000rpm) can cause problems with the turbo's internal bearings and can shorten the life of the turbocharger. In addition, many turbos require aftermarket exhaust manifolds, which are often far less reliable than stock manifolds."
Here is what I found on turbochargers.com
Originally Posted by turbochargers.com
Supercharges suck, and have weaksauce TQ. Not to mention the belt systems can prove to be a liability
Originally Posted by Alberto
Who shuts off their turbo car after running it hard? Thats the only way the above can happen of course they wouldnt say that, not like their biased or anything
Here is what I found on turbochargers.com
Here is what I found on turbochargers.com
You suck.
Seriously though, those problem with belts tend to happen with the larger superchargers, not the little **** that's available to the Z. With a ceiling of only 360whp, wouldn't you think a positive displacement supercharger set up would fit him perfectly? Isn't someone around here selling a slightly used Stage 4 Stillen?
Originally Posted by Integrity
Oh really? Here's what I found on AlbertoForgotHe'sOnlyTryingToMake360whp.com
You suck.
You suck.
ROFL... I remember those days like it was only last year...
360whp ceiling will never be touched with a Stillen, 320whp DJ would be lucky on a stage 4, and thats weaksauce. Keith already sold his Stage 4 anyways...turbo vs S/C-one isnt better for reliability, its just that turbo's get more "bad press" cuz its sooo easy to buy a $20 MBC turn up the boost and boom, suddenly turbo's arent reliable. Different powerbands, for different folks, me I love the turbo midrange TQ and nasty top end.
Originally Posted by Integrity
Oh really? Here's what I found on AlbertoForgotHe'sOnlyTryingToMake360whp.com
You suck.
Seriously though, those problem with belts tend to happen with the larger superchargers, not the little **** that's available to the Z. With a ceiling of only 360whp, wouldn't you think a positive displacement supercharger set up would fit him perfectly? Isn't someone around here selling a slightly used Stage 4 Stillen?
You suck.
Seriously though, those problem with belts tend to happen with the larger superchargers, not the little **** that's available to the Z. With a ceiling of only 360whp, wouldn't you think a positive displacement supercharger set up would fit him perfectly? Isn't someone around here selling a slightly used Stage 4 Stillen?
. The quad turbonators just aint doing it anymore.
Originally Posted by Alberto
360whp ceiling will never be touched with a Stillen, 320whp DJ would be lucky on a stage 4, and thats weaksauce. Keith already sold his Stage 4 anyways...turbo vs S/C-one isnt better for reliability, its just that turbo's get more "bad press" cuz its sooo easy to buy a $20 MBC turn up the boost and boom, suddenly turbo's arent reliable. Different powerbands, for different folks, me I love the turbo midrange TQ and nasty top end.
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