Mid-A Random-ness Discussion Thread: the Zequel
11-28-2011, 12:41 PM
#3862
So if I download Windows 7 and put it onto a CD and sell it on the street. does that make it ok since I'm not selling it through a store front?
Check out your youtube page. You speak about your beats being for sell all over it.
Why has youtube not taken any of your videos down? Because they don't care. You get 20-100 views on your videos. If you start getting big into views, you might see some of your stuff coming down. I've had a handful of my videos get yanked or the audio muted because I had music on the radio in the background. It happens when you start getting ad support with youtube as with views from people other then linked friends.
Can you use other peoples work in your own videos if you're not selling them? Sure, but if they say anything about it, it will be pulled. Chances are you wont have any issues. If you start selling beats at $10.00 $50.00 $100.00 or $1000.00 a pop and someone puts two and two together you better bet you'll find yourself in a lawsuit. Even if it was sold to your best friend. If money changed hands..... That's all that matters.
Like I said before. Even all of my samples that get mapped out to my keyboard where I have to play each note one by one and write my own music. If I don't publish their info in any items I've sold I can be sued. Even if I wrote 100% of it.
Doesn't matter who buys it, what matters is I'm making money off it.
So how does a typical day in the world of Shins recording studio go? Fill us in on the hard work that goes into making a beat.
P.S did you check out my links? Pro tools is $749 down from $1250 They even have an audio interface for $199.99 down from $299.99 although you might not need an Audio interface if you just keep ripping samples/clips from youtube.
Check out your youtube page. You speak about your beats being for sell all over it.
Why has youtube not taken any of your videos down? Because they don't care. You get 20-100 views on your videos. If you start getting big into views, you might see some of your stuff coming down. I've had a handful of my videos get yanked or the audio muted because I had music on the radio in the background. It happens when you start getting ad support with youtube as with views from people other then linked friends.
Can you use other peoples work in your own videos if you're not selling them? Sure, but if they say anything about it, it will be pulled. Chances are you wont have any issues. If you start selling beats at $10.00 $50.00 $100.00 or $1000.00 a pop and someone puts two and two together you better bet you'll find yourself in a lawsuit. Even if it was sold to your best friend. If money changed hands..... That's all that matters.
Like I said before. Even all of my samples that get mapped out to my keyboard where I have to play each note one by one and write my own music. If I don't publish their info in any items I've sold I can be sued. Even if I wrote 100% of it.
Doesn't matter who buys it, what matters is I'm making money off it.
So how does a typical day in the world of Shins recording studio go? Fill us in on the hard work that goes into making a beat.
P.S did you check out my links? Pro tools is $749 down from $1250 They even have an audio interface for $199.99 down from $299.99 although you might not need an Audio interface if you just keep ripping samples/clips from youtube.
He has produced for DipSet and does the same type of beats that I do, and he gave me the basic rundown of the rules and regulations for selling a beat. According to him, I can sell the beat as long as it's only being used for promotional purposes (such as, a mixtape being distributed on datpiff.com, or the likes).
He has more views than me. His stuff hasn't gotten taken down and we do the same thing.
What now?
11-28-2011, 12:46 PM
#3864
Jeff, you don't produce for rap artists, so I'm not sure if you know how this all works/the difference between actually composing something and making a beat. I've actually spoken to this guy: http://www.youtube.com/user/Movm3ntmov3in
He has produced for DipSet and does the same type of beats that I do, and he gave me the basic rundown of the rules and regulations for selling a beat. According to him, I can sell the beat as long as it's only being used for promotional purposes (such as, a mixtape being distributed on datpiff.com, or the likes).
He has more views than me. His stuff hasn't gotten taken down and we do the same thing.
What now?
He has produced for DipSet and does the same type of beats that I do, and he gave me the basic rundown of the rules and regulations for selling a beat. According to him, I can sell the beat as long as it's only being used for promotional purposes (such as, a mixtape being distributed on datpiff.com, or the likes).
He has more views than me. His stuff hasn't gotten taken down and we do the same thing.
What now?
So what you're saying is this one guy told you the rules of music ripping off and that makes it ok?
So rap artist have their own set of laws?
11-28-2011, 12:47 PM
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lol pretty much sums it up.
Buy a legit receiver that is the base for any good setup. HTIB are cheap and when 1 item breaks, it's trash. If looking for something to work for the time being... It's not a bad option, but down the road when you want to upgrade it, you will replace 100% of it.
A good receiver should last you 10-15-20 years. The JVC my parents has from the early 90s is still kicking ***, only downside to it is it doesnt have HDMI support. So over 20+ years the biggest upside to receivers has been added HDMI.
Clay how much are you looking to spend on everything? TV, receiver, speakers, cables, repeaters (if doing it legit) and stand?
Buy a legit receiver that is the base for any good setup. HTIB are cheap and when 1 item breaks, it's trash. If looking for something to work for the time being... It's not a bad option, but down the road when you want to upgrade it, you will replace 100% of it.
A good receiver should last you 10-15-20 years. The JVC my parents has from the early 90s is still kicking ***, only downside to it is it doesnt have HDMI support. So over 20+ years the biggest upside to receivers has been added HDMI.
Clay how much are you looking to spend on everything? TV, receiver, speakers, cables, repeaters (if doing it legit) and stand?
$600-800 or is that too cheap?
11-28-2011, 12:50 PM
#3867
Look at his total upload views, please.
And like I said..he has ACTUALLY PRODUCED for DipSet.
On top of that, if you ever listened to a DipSet mixtape, they have TONS of samples from random classical/theatrical pieces in their beats..for their mixtapes. They would be getting sued out of their asses (as well as their producers) if what Movm3nt is saying wasn't true.
http://youtu.be/BdJZhyMvKzI
That uses a sample from Final Fantasy VII's soundtrack.
And like I said..he has ACTUALLY PRODUCED for DipSet.
On top of that, if you ever listened to a DipSet mixtape, they have TONS of samples from random classical/theatrical pieces in their beats..for their mixtapes. They would be getting sued out of their asses (as well as their producers) if what Movm3nt is saying wasn't true.
http://youtu.be/BdJZhyMvKzI
That uses a sample from Final Fantasy VII's soundtrack.
11-28-2011, 12:59 PM
#3868
Look at his total upload views, please.
And like I said..he has ACTUALLY PRODUCED for DipSet.
On top of that, if you ever listened to a DipSet mixtape, they have TONS of samples from random classical/theatrical pieces in their beats..for their mixtapes. They would be getting sued out of their asses (as well as their producers) if what Movm3nt is saying wasn't true.
http://youtu.be/BdJZhyMvKzI
That uses a sample from Final Fantasy VII's soundtrack.
And like I said..he has ACTUALLY PRODUCED for DipSet.
On top of that, if you ever listened to a DipSet mixtape, they have TONS of samples from random classical/theatrical pieces in their beats..for their mixtapes. They would be getting sued out of their asses (as well as their producers) if what Movm3nt is saying wasn't true.
http://youtu.be/BdJZhyMvKzI
That uses a sample from Final Fantasy VII's soundtrack.
Bottom line, you rip off youtube videos/songs and then use them for your own work then are worried about someone doing the same to you.
I removed you from AIM because of debates like this, it will never end. You're right. Keep ripping people off, you'll never have any issues if you were to ever get big
As long as your idea of big is like the videos you just linked. Here's an example of someone who isn't big yet but will be big. Check out her video views...
http://www.youtube.com/user/maddijanemusic
Just in case you can't figure out the #s. her newest movie is 20 days old and it has been viewed 1,725,208 times.
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11-28-2011, 01:03 PM
#3869
How do you know what I buy and what I don't? I have purchased albums from Immediate Music and Two Steps from Hell before.
I am not ripping anybody off if it's legal, and I'm not making thousands of dollars from this yet. And it's cool if you want to be a little girl and delete me off of AIM and whatever, I'm not worried about that anymore.
I am not ripping anybody off if it's legal, and I'm not making thousands of dollars from this yet. And it's cool if you want to be a little girl and delete me off of AIM and whatever, I'm not worried about that anymore.
11-28-2011, 01:07 PM
#3871
How do you know what I buy and what I don't? I have purchased albums from Immediate Music and Two Steps from Hell before.
I am not ripping anybody off if it's legal, and I'm not making thousands of dollars from this yet. And it's cool if you want to be a little girl and delete me off of AIM and whatever, I'm not worried about that anymore.
I am not ripping anybody off if it's legal, and I'm not making thousands of dollars from this yet. And it's cool if you want to be a little girl and delete me off of AIM and whatever, I'm not worried about that anymore.
I used the little girl as an example of a person who pulls views on youtube. not a massive 15K views like that guy who made it big, video.
So how much have you spent on software/samples? Honestly?
11-28-2011, 01:10 PM
#3872
You're right I'm wrong. He's big, who here hasnt heard of him before.
So you keep on writing your big hits and when you get big I look forward to seeing your post/videos of all your whips.
11-28-2011, 01:15 PM
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That tells me they're still so small that the bigger companies don't want to waste time going after them.
Bottom line, you rip off youtube videos/songs and then use them for your own work then are worried about someone doing the same to you.
I removed you from AIM because of debates like this, it will never end. You're right. Keep ripping people off, you'll never have any issues if you were to ever get big As long as your idea of big is like the videos you just linked.
Here's an example of someone who isn't big yet but will be big. Check out her video views...
http://www.youtube.com/user/maddijanemusic
Just in case you can't figure out the #s. her newest movie is 20 days old and it has been viewed 1,725,208 times.
Bottom line, you rip off youtube videos/songs and then use them for your own work then are worried about someone doing the same to you.
I removed you from AIM because of debates like this, it will never end. You're right. Keep ripping people off, you'll never have any issues if you were to ever get big
As long as your idea of big is like the videos you just linked. Here's an example of someone who isn't big yet but will be big. Check out her video views...
http://www.youtube.com/user/maddijanemusic
Just in case you can't figure out the #s. her newest movie is 20 days old and it has been viewed 1,725,208 times.
Never really cared for Cam'Ron, Jim Jones or Juelz. They make mediocre music that's already been forgotten by a really fickle hip hop audience. I'm not jumping into this sampling debate, but I will say that some of the best music of the early-mid 90s featured layered sampling. Listen to any early Public Enemy to see what I mean. The Bomb Squad basically built a "wall of sound" out of hidden sampled material that was looped, played backwards, distorted, etc... It's become so expensive to pay the original artists that most of the music that we grew up on can never be duplicated today.
11-28-2011, 01:21 PM
#3877
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diplomats
Never really cared for Cam'Ron, Jim Jones or Juelz. They make mediocre music that's already been forgotten by a really fickle hip hop audience. I'm not jumping into this sampling debate, but I will say that some of the best music of the early-mid 90s featured layered sampling. Listen to any early Public Enemy to see what I mean. The Bomb Squad basically built a "wall of sound" out of hidden sampled material that was looped, played backwards, distorted, etc... It's become so expensive to pay the original artists that most of the music that we grew up on can never be duplicated today.
Never really cared for Cam'Ron, Jim Jones or Juelz. They make mediocre music that's already been forgotten by a really fickle hip hop audience. I'm not jumping into this sampling debate, but I will say that some of the best music of the early-mid 90s featured layered sampling. Listen to any early Public Enemy to see what I mean. The Bomb Squad basically built a "wall of sound" out of hidden sampled material that was looped, played backwards, distorted, etc... It's become so expensive to pay the original artists that most of the music that we grew up on can never be duplicated today.
Sometimes people do want a flat 1 time payment or a % of the take, other times they don't care and like the extra exposure.
Bottom line, without written permission you're open for being sued.
11-28-2011, 01:23 PM
#3878
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diplomats
Never really cared for Cam'Ron, Jim Jones or Juelz. They make mediocre music that's already been forgotten by a really fickle hip hop audience. I'm not jumping into this sampling debate, but I will say that some of the best music of the early-mid 90s featured layered sampling. Listen to any early Public Enemy to see what I mean. The Bomb Squad basically built a "wall of sound" out of hidden sampled material that was looped, played backwards, distorted, etc... It's become so expensive to pay the original artists that most of the music that we grew up on can never be duplicated today.
Never really cared for Cam'Ron, Jim Jones or Juelz. They make mediocre music that's already been forgotten by a really fickle hip hop audience. I'm not jumping into this sampling debate, but I will say that some of the best music of the early-mid 90s featured layered sampling. Listen to any early Public Enemy to see what I mean. The Bomb Squad basically built a "wall of sound" out of hidden sampled material that was looped, played backwards, distorted, etc... It's become so expensive to pay the original artists that most of the music that we grew up on can never be duplicated today.
11-28-2011, 01:28 PM
#3880
I wouldn't worry about a sub until after you set everything up and feel that you still need it. My cheap sony speakers pump out more then enough bass to the point where I don't feel I need a sub.
$600-800 should be more then enough for a legit receiver and a good center/FL/FR speakers as with some ok rear speakers.