I hope this moron is not on this board...
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Originally posted by kaiser23
Couple points.
1. The LS1 does not make as much power outside the corvette as it does in the corvette. In the same way that our Z's make more power than the G35 coupe with the same motor. The vette is 350 hp, all others are 320-ish.
2. No LS1 car can hit a 12.8 stock. No way, not gonna happen, end of book. The LS1 corvette does about 13.6. And that is the fastest LS1 car there is. (actually the '02 camaro ss is about the same) The LS*6* corvette (aka Z06) does about a 12.5.
3. LS1 cars are faster (straight line) than the Z, but not by a whole hell of a lot, and older ones (non corvette) are about the same 1/4 mile. The Z however will eat anything short of a Z06 for breakfast on the track.
4. I respect LS1 cars, and have no beef, just wanted to put up some statistics.
Couple points.
1. The LS1 does not make as much power outside the corvette as it does in the corvette. In the same way that our Z's make more power than the G35 coupe with the same motor. The vette is 350 hp, all others are 320-ish.
2. No LS1 car can hit a 12.8 stock. No way, not gonna happen, end of book. The LS1 corvette does about 13.6. And that is the fastest LS1 car there is. (actually the '02 camaro ss is about the same) The LS*6* corvette (aka Z06) does about a 12.5.
3. LS1 cars are faster (straight line) than the Z, but not by a whole hell of a lot, and older ones (non corvette) are about the same 1/4 mile. The Z however will eat anything short of a Z06 for breakfast on the track.
4. I respect LS1 cars, and have no beef, just wanted to put up some statistics.
1. The LS1 makes slightly more power at the crank in the Corvette than it does in an f-car, simply due to exhaust layout. The y-car has a true dual exhaust, whereas the f-car has a y-piped setup. At the rear wheels, I've seen more stock Corvettes dyno lower then stock f-cars due to the IRS. If you really don't believe this, there's a article from Hot Rod magazine floating out around there... I'll find it for you of you'd like.
2. It takes a good driver, but it's more than possible to clock a 12-second run in a stock LS1 f-car at the strip. I think a lot of guys on this board are getting there stats from C&D, R&T, and MT. Problem is that these mags don't get there 1/4 mile times from a track, they get them from instrumenting cars and running them on there test lots, which have surfaces more like the street than a prepped strip. If you don't beleive me e-mail C&D, they're very clear and open about how they test.
3. Track times are highly dependant on driver. I've been racing on circle tracks and road courses since I was 11 - I'm very confident in my ability to run circles around someone in a Z at your average track day. But like so many of the 350Z drivers here that talk up the Z's track performance, I'll never know first hand. I got my street car to run on the street... haven't seen any hairpin, chicanes, or sweepers around my neighborhood. Maybe it's different where you live.
4. I didn't see any "statistics" - like most posts here I saw a lot of opinion.
Peace.
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Oh yeah, D'oh's right by the way. No one owns Nissan. They merged with Renault a few years ago when auto mergers were the hip trend in the industry, but they've pretty much operated independent of one another since.
Ford has a controlling interest in Mazda, but to say they own them would be incorrect as well. Mazda still enjoys some degree of autonomy in certain cases. Otherwise we'd see the RX-8 on Ford lots as well, probably rebadged as the Probe
Ford has a controlling interest in Mazda, but to say they own them would be incorrect as well. Mazda still enjoys some degree of autonomy in certain cases. Otherwise we'd see the RX-8 on Ford lots as well, probably rebadged as the Probe
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Originally posted by sukkoi19
To some degree yes, theres some cool guys here though
To some degree yes, theres some cool guys here though
Last time I was here this board didn't even have a racing section. I still remember when a lot of the members were dead set against posting kill stories. Looks like the board has changed a lot since then.
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Re: Re: Bullitt: spelled B U L L I T T
Originally posted by 1Redline350Z
I don't give a **** how you spell it, champ. Your car is a dime a dozen rustang. rustang, camaro, ta i don't give two squirts. Those cars are considered in most circles to be redneck pos's. I find it hilarious that you ******** come onto our forum and talk trash about your inferior rides. It's painfully obvious that you all have huge chips on your shoulders. But hey, thanks for making my point by continuing to respond to these posts.
I don't give a **** how you spell it, champ. Your car is a dime a dozen rustang. rustang, camaro, ta i don't give two squirts. Those cars are considered in most circles to be redneck pos's. I find it hilarious that you ******** come onto our forum and talk trash about your inferior rides. It's painfully obvious that you all have huge chips on your shoulders. But hey, thanks for making my point by continuing to respond to these posts.
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me, look bad, is that a joke?
Originally posted by brandboZ28
Soemthing doesnt have to be the latest and greatest technilogical breakthrough to be taken seriously. The 350 cubic inch motor has been around forever and has been making people like you look bad every bit of the way. Im not saying that the 5.7 is the best engine ever but why would anyone, even GM, keep something like that around for so long if it wasnt getting the job done. I like the 350Z, dont get me wrong. Its a cool *** car. Is it as fast as LS1 in a straight line? No way, not even close. The LT1, its neck and neck. Im not saying you didnt do what you claimed to do, I am saying the driver of the T/A was not as good of a driver as he should be.
BTW, My car is 10 years old and it will beat the **** out of most 350Z's out there and my car has those god awful push rod thingies.
The problem is finding one that isnt scared of losing.
Soemthing doesnt have to be the latest and greatest technilogical breakthrough to be taken seriously. The 350 cubic inch motor has been around forever and has been making people like you look bad every bit of the way. Im not saying that the 5.7 is the best engine ever but why would anyone, even GM, keep something like that around for so long if it wasnt getting the job done. I like the 350Z, dont get me wrong. Its a cool *** car. Is it as fast as LS1 in a straight line? No way, not even close. The LT1, its neck and neck. Im not saying you didnt do what you claimed to do, I am saying the driver of the T/A was not as good of a driver as he should be.
BTW, My car is 10 years old and it will beat the **** out of most 350Z's out there and my car has those god awful push rod thingies.
The problem is finding one that isnt scared of losing.
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It's a mustang you idiot...
Originally posted by High_Velocity_Bullit
Hard to see how my car is a dime a dozen, when there are less made than your Z. Only about 5700 Bullitts where made. So check your facts before you spout off. You are obvouisly ignorant in your knowledge of cars. And when have I talked trash about your car? Never. Read all my post. I said you have an excelent car. In my post I have always given repect to your car. So try giving some back to those with other modes of transportation. I haven't tried to prove anything to you other than that your car isn't the only one out there. Get a life, and I say that in the most respectfull way possible
Hard to see how my car is a dime a dozen, when there are less made than your Z. Only about 5700 Bullitts where made. So check your facts before you spout off. You are obvouisly ignorant in your knowledge of cars. And when have I talked trash about your car? Never. Read all my post. I said you have an excelent car. In my post I have always given repect to your car. So try giving some back to those with other modes of transportation. I haven't tried to prove anything to you other than that your car isn't the only one out there. Get a life, and I say that in the most respectfull way possible
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read the post..
Originally posted by MI_SS_IL
I'm reading through some other posts. I'm glad to see they're not all like this thread. I haven't seen so much ingnorance and wrong information and magazine racing in 1 thread in a long time.
Last time I was here this board didn't even have a racing section. I still remember when a lot of the members were dead set against posting kill stories. Looks like the board has changed a lot since then.
Chris
I'm reading through some other posts. I'm glad to see they're not all like this thread. I haven't seen so much ingnorance and wrong information and magazine racing in 1 thread in a long time.
Last time I was here this board didn't even have a racing section. I still remember when a lot of the members were dead set against posting kill stories. Looks like the board has changed a lot since then.
Chris
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Originally posted by brandboZ28
Yea, muscle cars are junk, they use pushrod V-8's
I would be willing to say the LS1 is already known as at least one of the greatest motors. I know I respect it like no other.
Yea, muscle cars are junk, they use pushrod V-8's
I would be willing to say the LS1 is already known as at least one of the greatest motors. I know I respect it like no other.
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Re: me, look bad, is that a joke?
Originally posted by 1Redline350Z
hum, i had a 95 TA with intake and exhaust and the best i could ever muster outta that pos at the track was a 14.1. I've said it before and i'll say it again, a stock LS1 will not run in the 12's. Motor trend tested them in the low 13's. Those guys do that for a living. They know how to squeeze every bit out of a car. But I guess you'll say you can do better right?
hum, i had a 95 TA with intake and exhaust and the best i could ever muster outta that pos at the track was a 14.1. I've said it before and i'll say it again, a stock LS1 will not run in the 12's. Motor trend tested them in the low 13's. Those guys do that for a living. They know how to squeeze every bit out of a car. But I guess you'll say you can do better right?
Do you really think that is saying much? I mean, that's like saying, "I can't seem to get into the 15's with my 350z. Geez, these things really aren't that fast."
I know you won't take my word for it, but those LS-1's are really formidable motors. And they are popular enough that some are bound to do remarkable things. And magazine tests are not the end-all of performance evaluations. If they WERE, then a stock 350Z would only do 14.2 in the quarter, and nothing more (going by C&D's times). But we both know that people here claim to have gotten into the 13's, right? Just because someone gets paid to do something doesn't necessarily mean that they're the best at it.
You ever gone to a car wash and looked at your car afterwards and said, 'Man, they did a sh!tty job"? So now you go and wash your car yourself and it looks better than when you paid someone to do it. It's kinda like that.
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Wow. Very fun and informative.
Note to all who thrive on flaming and insulting others on these forums...it is unacceptable here. There are plenty of sites (including other 350Z sites) you can visit and flame the **** out of everyone and everything. This is not one of them. This goes for 350Z owners as well. If you do not want to be banned, then please act like an adult and try to share your opinions without insulting others.
Note to all who thrive on flaming and insulting others on these forums...it is unacceptable here. There are plenty of sites (including other 350Z sites) you can visit and flame the **** out of everyone and everything. This is not one of them. This goes for 350Z owners as well. If you do not want to be banned, then please act like an adult and try to share your opinions without insulting others.
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