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Originally posted by jester
I do find the claims of Zs beating 99+ Mustangs interesting also. While yes, I do agree that anything can happen on the street...I've seen some claims of many car lengths between the Z and Mustang (Z's favor).... Just think it is intresting and questionable.
I do find the claims of Zs beating 99+ Mustangs interesting also. While yes, I do agree that anything can happen on the street...I've seen some claims of many car lengths between the Z and Mustang (Z's favor).... Just think it is intresting and questionable.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by DarkKnight
[B]TRMach1,
is your time posted with no mods? if so, i am very impressed. i really liked what ford did with the mach 1's, except for the rims. for once, ford made a car that sits nicely between the gt and the cobra. there idea with the bullit was not too impresive, as it was not noticibly faster than the gt, imo.
looking forward to running a mach 1, and a z. i think both cars are great.
I want to run w/ one too, see a lot of GT's but no cobras or Mach1s. I like the current stang body style, the mach 1 and cobra a little better. I don't mind the GT and down, they are just a dime a dozen, but then again, I say the same thing about vetts. I am interested to see what the actual new bodystyle is going to look like, I hope it close to all the pictures I have seen thus far. If it is, and performance is high, then I might buy one as my day car.
[B]TRMach1,
is your time posted with no mods? if so, i am very impressed. i really liked what ford did with the mach 1's, except for the rims. for once, ford made a car that sits nicely between the gt and the cobra. there idea with the bullit was not too impresive, as it was not noticibly faster than the gt, imo.
looking forward to running a mach 1, and a z. i think both cars are great.
I want to run w/ one too, see a lot of GT's but no cobras or Mach1s. I like the current stang body style, the mach 1 and cobra a little better. I don't mind the GT and down, they are just a dime a dozen, but then again, I say the same thing about vetts. I am interested to see what the actual new bodystyle is going to look like, I hope it close to all the pictures I have seen thus far. If it is, and performance is high, then I might buy one as my day car.
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2002ish GT from a 60-100 roll on the free way... walked him like a chiwaawaa on a long leash...
2000ish Cobra he pretty much walked me...
Both were lowered with body kit...
IMHO - GTs unmodified just don't have a chance.
2000ish Cobra he pretty much walked me...
Both were lowered with body kit...
IMHO - GTs unmodified just don't have a chance.
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Originally posted by 3rdpower
2002ish GT from a 60-100 roll on the free way... walked him like a chiwaawaa on a long leash...
2000ish Cobra he pretty much walked me...
Both were lowered with body kit...
IMHO - GTs unmodified just don't have a chance.
2002ish GT from a 60-100 roll on the free way... walked him like a chiwaawaa on a long leash...
2000ish Cobra he pretty much walked me...
Both were lowered with body kit...
IMHO - GTs unmodified just don't have a chance.
Now the only think I have done is a CAI...full exhaust is coming next....along with about 400 to the rear wheels.
And I do agree that stock GTs "just don't have a chance"....
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Originally posted by jester
Well, and I'm not trying to be arrogant here....but their shouldn't have even been a "pretty much walked me" in there. I raced either a G-35 or a Z and completely desecrated him....and was he racing...yes he was cause it was a 3 way race with a 99/01 Cobra the G-35 or Z and myself.
Well, and I'm not trying to be arrogant here....but their shouldn't have even been a "pretty much walked me" in there. I raced either a G-35 or a Z and completely desecrated him....and was he racing...yes he was cause it was a 3 way race with a 99/01 Cobra the G-35 or Z and myself.
I think the thing about Mustangs is that there's just too many flavors of them (between year, model, power, etc.) that you really don't know what you're racing unless you chat w/ the owner. I was behind my friend and a GT last weekend and my friend completely tore him up. Afterwards, they gave each other thumbs up.
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Originally posted by Michael-Dallas
Well, there's a BIG difference between a 320hp Cobra and a 390hp Cobra. I'd be willing to guess that the Cobra he raced was a 320hp model.
Well, there's a BIG difference between a 320hp Cobra and a 390hp Cobra. I'd be willing to guess that the Cobra he raced was a 320hp model.
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Originally posted by Michael-Dallas
I think the thing about Mustangs is that there's just too many flavors of them (between year, model, power, etc.) that you really don't know what you're racing unless you chat w/ the owner. I was behind my friend and a GT last weekend and my friend completely tore him up. Afterwards, they gave each other thumbs up.
Michael.
I think the thing about Mustangs is that there's just too many flavors of them (between year, model, power, etc.) that you really don't know what you're racing unless you chat w/ the owner. I was behind my friend and a GT last weekend and my friend completely tore him up. Afterwards, they gave each other thumbs up.
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but once I got into third it was all over we shut it down at about 110 MPH..with me being about 2 cars ahead of him
but once I got into third it was all over we shut it down at about 110 MPH..with me being about 2 cars ahead of him
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Zogan, nice kills. I hope you take your car to the track someday and get us times. While it's nice to hear about kills, 1/4 mile times are the only things we can show for that will validate some of our stories.
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Originally posted by AngelGT2000
I seriously hope you rephrase that. Almost sounds like you took you car to 110mph on 3rd gear. With the stock 3:27 gears Gt's are knocking near redline around 101mph.
Zogan, nice kills. I hope you take your car to the track someday and get us times. While it's nice to hear about kills, 1/4 mile times are the only things we can show for that will validate some of our stories.
I seriously hope you rephrase that. Almost sounds like you took you car to 110mph on 3rd gear. With the stock 3:27 gears Gt's are knocking near redline around 101mph.
Zogan, nice kills. I hope you take your car to the track someday and get us times. While it's nice to hear about kills, 1/4 mile times are the only things we can show for that will validate some of our stories.
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I sure hope you eventually woke up from that dream! I'd sure like to know where all these monster Z cars are when I'm on the street, because so far the 4 that I've encountered can just barely keep up with a stock Mustang GT, let alone a C5 Vette (yeah, right).
So far, I have completely dusted 4 Mustang GTs (various mid-90s to current models) and 2 Bullitt GTs. The new Z is more than a match for a normal GT unless it has a fair number of mods.
The Mach I... that's a different story... raced one of those and lost by 2, maybe 2 1/2 car lengths. They are very impressive, but most Mustangs aren't toting the HP of the new Mach I's.
Had chances to race Cobras a couple of times, but sometimes you just gotta know better!
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Not trying to ruffle anyones feathers, but when mixing Zs and Mustangs, slowest to fastest (minus serious mods) is Mustang GT, Mustang Bullitt, 350Z, Mustang MachI, Cobra.
Pretty impressive for a vehicle designed for more than just straight line performance. Put these same cars on a true road course and I'm sure only the Cobra would best the Z... and that would only be because of the huge advantage it would have in the straights.
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Originally posted by jester
I do find the claims of Zs beating 99+ Mustangs interesting also. While yes, I do agree that anything can happen on the street...I've seen some claims of many car lengths between the Z and Mustang (Z's favor).... Just think it is intresting and questionable.
I do find the claims of Zs beating 99+ Mustangs interesting also. While yes, I do agree that anything can happen on the street...I've seen some claims of many car lengths between the Z and Mustang (Z's favor).... Just think it is intresting and questionable.
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Originally posted by mcduck
Sounds like TRMachI needs to wake up from a dream here... not the Z owners.
So far, I have completely dusted 4 Mustang GTs (various mid-90s to current models) and 2 Bullitt GTs. The new Z is more than a match for a normal GT unless it has a fair number of mods.
Sounds like TRMachI needs to wake up from a dream here... not the Z owners.
So far, I have completely dusted 4 Mustang GTs (various mid-90s to current models) and 2 Bullitt GTs. The new Z is more than a match for a normal GT unless it has a fair number of mods.
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Originally posted by TRMach1
Actually, I sleep quite well thank you, but then I'm not tossing and turning all night trying to come up with unrealistic kill stories to post on internet message boards.
Actually, I sleep quite well thank you, but then I'm not tossing and turning all night trying to come up with unrealistic kill stories to post on internet message boards.
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But its funny reading all these Kill's...and noticing that All the "OTHER" Forum people hang out here to hear what the new Z is doing and to post teh ones they've beat??
All the V8/LS1 whatever you call it are Always in here--I've seen one guy BullitMustang(spell?) in another forum on this site---I just think its Funny!!
BUt that was just pointing out something not flaming--do what you want--
either way...stangs are fast and Very Slow-- I've raced many in my INTEGRA(when it was supercharged & w/o the JRSC) and have won about everyone of em!!Got KILLED by a Highly modded/slammed/Gauged(had ton of Gauges)so I'm guessin it was SC'd in my RSX-S w/ just INJEN Intake--we took off and I jumped him from the line-shifted after him to 2nd..then half way through he just started pullin and I got spanked! Who cares---that dude better have beat me---I had a basicly Stock car and I'm sure he had over $2000+ on that car maybe more--so ya win some and lose some..but who cares!!
Moral:
The Z is not the NEw 'Super Car'or anything--it can be beat and it can beat the unbeatable..(like me in my Stock 00" GSR vs/ a 3000GT VR-4)pulled him and won by half a car!
I'm happy w/ mine and don't care if I can beat a Damn GT Mustang or a damn Viper,.hahaha.Thats not everything--but great Kills either way!
All the V8/LS1 whatever you call it are Always in here--I've seen one guy BullitMustang(spell?) in another forum on this site---I just think its Funny!!
BUt that was just pointing out something not flaming--do what you want--
either way...stangs are fast and Very Slow-- I've raced many in my INTEGRA(when it was supercharged & w/o the JRSC) and have won about everyone of em!!Got KILLED by a Highly modded/slammed/Gauged(had ton of Gauges)so I'm guessin it was SC'd in my RSX-S w/ just INJEN Intake--we took off and I jumped him from the line-shifted after him to 2nd..then half way through he just started pullin and I got spanked! Who cares---that dude better have beat me---I had a basicly Stock car and I'm sure he had over $2000+ on that car maybe more--so ya win some and lose some..but who cares!!
Moral:
The Z is not the NEw 'Super Car'or anything--it can be beat and it can beat the unbeatable..(like me in my Stock 00" GSR vs/ a 3000GT VR-4)pulled him and won by half a car!
I'm happy w/ mine and don't care if I can beat a Damn GT Mustang or a damn Viper,.hahaha.Thats not everything--but great Kills either way!
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Originally posted by AngelGT2000
I seriously hope you rephrase that. Almost sounds like you took you car to 110mph on 3rd gear. With the stock 3:27 gears Gt's are knocking near redline around 101mph.
I seriously hope you rephrase that. Almost sounds like you took you car to 110mph on 3rd gear. With the stock 3:27 gears Gt's are knocking near redline around 101mph.
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Originally posted by 281cobra
You need to remember alot of GT's are running around with auto's. They're 3-4 tenths slower in the 1/4 mile than the 5-speeds.
You need to remember alot of GT's are running around with auto's. They're 3-4 tenths slower in the 1/4 mile than the 5-speeds.
Now, I will be honest, I have not been to the track since the 350Z has been out, so I'm going by ETs in people's signatures here....And.....I know anything can happen in a street race, but the post that people just think a GT isn't gonna beat a Z...period....well, that just isn't the case.
I like the Zs a lot...I looked at them before I got my Cobra, so please don't think I am bashing....but some of the post in here are just about as bad as going over to LS1.com and posting that my old 95GT with H/C/I/E ect, ect beat an F-body....they were in complete denial.
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True...however, the guys/girls that are going to be out street racing more than likely are running a 5 spd....and from what I have seen, 5 spds are ETing anywhere from 13.7- low 14s, and from 102-99 mph.
True...however, the guys/girls that are going to be out street racing more than likely are running a 5 spd....and from what I have seen, 5 spds are ETing anywhere from 13.7- low 14s, and from 102-99 mph.
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Cause...alot of people assume its a 5 speed...and it causes us to lose our street credit as auto's just can't hang...
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