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Old May 17, 2003 | 03:49 PM
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hehe, a cam...
Old May 17, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by rodH
WOW, that is NUTS, so why doesn't everybody with these cars run out and buy a cam, I know I would (in other words..Z06...see ya later!!)
Yeah...seems like everyone would just buy a cam instead of wasting time with the other mods. Buy you a TA/camaro and slap on a cam and you got you a 911 Turbo killin machine!

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Old May 17, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by xZlr8
Yeah...seems like everyone would just buy a cam instead of wasting time with the other mods. Buy you a TA/camaro and slap on a cam and you got you a 911 Turbo killin machine!
all you want, look at my sig...That is internally only cam, yeah i said only cam!!!! and i am still missing 2 bolt ons and tuning, will be oround 410-420 with those.... ...That equals some low 11 second passes....Do some research before you roll eyes there ricer boy...
Old May 17, 2003 | 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by rodH
WOW, that is NUTS, so why doesn't everybody with these cars run out and buy a cam, I know I would (in other words..Z06...see ya later!!)
Warranty. You'd better believe that when the 36/36,000 is over the stock cam is getting yanked.

I love the rice denial some of the folks in this thread are living in. Fact is that the stock LS1 heads flow great and the stock cam is just plain small. Full bolt-on, cam-only LS1's can be downright lethal. Better bring a power adder if you want to mess with one of those.
Old May 17, 2003 | 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by xZlr8
Yeah...seems like everyone would just buy a cam instead of wasting time with the other mods. Buy you a TA/camaro and slap on a cam and you got you a 911 Turbo killin machine!
Last time i checked a 124mph trap would walk that 100K Porsche with no problem.

Also getting a cam is becoming a big trend in the LS1 community...30-40 rwhp with just a cam is too easy to pass up.
Old May 17, 2003 | 04:44 PM
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You had a passenger in the Z, was the Z28 driver alone? Regards, Jim
Yep, I had a passenger and he didn't. My friend said he thought that was why he pulled on me, but I still think it was the exhaust not the passenger. I mean we have raced 4 other times and we split those races. It was whoever got the jump on the start and neither one of us could pull on each other. The only difference from yesterdays race and the other four is the exhaust and the passenger. Maybe it was a combination or so because I diffenitely wasn't able to hit 100+ in the quarter as I could easily do before.

how fast does the first gear in a 350Z go?
JamRWS6,I am not really sure but I thought it was around 35 Mph.



Nice video. Good driving too...nice quick shifts. I'm surprised it was that close. I'm impressed.
Joeshow750, thanks for the compliment. I was shifting without the clutch all the way except for fifth.


When you shift into 4th the 1/4 mile is pretty much gone isn't it....i mean, that was a hell of a race. It looks like you pulled on him in first gear and at the end of 3rd he was only about 1 car ahead. That was awesome man. This video is very comparable to the races i've had with LS1's...very close until 4th, then their hp runs away with it.
xZlr8, we have the quarter measured out and it is about the end of fourth beginning of fifth depending how much speed you can get going.


Next time we test our cars against each other I am going to have someone at the end of the quarter recorded it instead of one of us having a passenger. I then want to try it with the stock exhaust and then with only the premuffler to see if it makes a difference.
Old May 17, 2003 | 06:21 PM
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30-40 hp increase from a cam will get you a 11.1 second 1/4 mile? How does that work?

I'm not trying to be a smart *** but I thought stock a Z-28 would do low 13's so just by adding a cam you can get 11.1. Damn that is ahell of a deal.


Maybe if you add an exhaust you'll be in the 9's!
Old May 17, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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Mods are cumulative. 30-40rwhp would be a nice gain for a basically stock LS1. Throw on all of the bolt-on's and you'll easily see 400rwhp horsepower with an almost stock idle. If you can live with a choppier, surging idle then you'll leave 400rwhp well behind. Put a pair of drag radials on the back and start collecting the 11-second time slips, at least until the 7.5" 10-bolt rear grenades.
Old May 17, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by Caswell
at least until the 7.5" 10-bolt rear grenades.
Then you buy a 9 in or 12-bolt, launch off of the rev limiter with slicks, and look at the clouds.
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Originally posted by buzzdsm
30-40 hp increase from a cam will get you a 11.1 second 1/4 mile? How does that work?

I'm not trying to be a smart *** but I thought stock a Z-28 would do low 13's so just by adding a cam you can get 11.1. Damn that is ahell of a deal.


Maybe if you add an exhaust you'll be in the 9's!
here is a link for you...These are all the cars in 11s with STOCK INTERNALS, thats right, no cam, ONLY boltons!!!Just imagine what these people could run with a cam...BTW i ran a 12.4 at 113.6 with my boltons (not even all of them) before my cam, so better believe it, some of you people really need to do some research...

http://www.ls1tech.com/threads/showf...5&o=31&fpart=1
Old May 17, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by CrazyBosnian
all you want, look at my sig...That is internally only cam, yeah i said only cam!!!! and i am still missing 2 bolt ons and tuning, will be oround 410-420 with those.... ...That equals some low 11 second passes....Do some research before you roll eyes there ricer boy...
ummmm, not to be a DICK here, but I think what he was asking (like I was) was why doesn't every single Z28 owner RUN (not walk) out and buy cams if they add that much (I don't hang around Z28 sites, but on Audi and VW 1.8T engines, you can add a CHIP for only $500 and get an additional 50-60 HP and almost 90 ft-lbs of torque, and it is CRAZY the amount of people buying these things, NOW looking at it that way and the fact that typically, I would guess a Z28 owner is MORE worried about drag racing than a VW Bug owner, why don't we hear more about them (the Warrenty issue is interesting, that certainly doesn't stop all teh VW and Honda owners from doing mods)

This is a Sincere question.

btw, you might want to be a little more kind in your responces I am NOT sure why we have Z28 owners over here wanting to pick a fight and throwing out "rice" terms, as you clearly see, some of use are just looking for answers, NO need to get so defensive.
Old May 17, 2003 | 10:43 PM
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BTW i ran a 12.4 at 113.6 with my boltons (not even all of them) before my cam, so better believe it, some of you people really need to do some research...
That's cool, I don't mind doing research. Looks like the best place to go for information on ls1's is my350z.com
Old May 17, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by joeshow750
That's cool, I don't mind doing research. Looks like the best place to go for information on ls1's is my350z.com
Old May 17, 2003 | 11:22 PM
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That's cool, I don't mind doing research. Looks like the best place to go for information on ls1's is my350z.com
you noticed that too, ha??? to be honest, I don't understand it??
Old May 18, 2003 | 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by rodH
ummmm, not to be a DICK here, but I think what he was asking (like I was) was why doesn't every single Z28 owner RUN (not walk) out and buy cams if they add that much (I don't hang around Z28 sites, but on Audi and VW 1.8T engines, you can add a CHIP for only $500 and get an additional 50-60 HP and almost 90 ft-lbs of torque, and it is CRAZY the amount of people buying these things, NOW looking at it that way and the fact that typically, I would guess a Z28 owner is MORE worried about drag racing than a VW Bug owner, why don't we hear more about them (the Warrenty issue is interesting, that certainly doesn't stop all teh VW and Honda owners from doing mods)

This is a Sincere question.

btw, you might want to be a little more kind in your responces I am NOT sure why we have Z28 owners over here wanting to pick a fight and throwing out "rice" terms, as you clearly see, some of use are just looking for answers, NO need to get so defensive.
Come on are you being serious. Not everybody mods thier cars. Especially not as intensive as a cam intall can be. You dont hear about cammed LS1s because you are on my350Z.com, go over to LS1.com and read to your hearts content. You are the one using sarcasm to show your disbelief at things that us LS1 owners have known about for months, so dont sit there and act like you dont know why we are getting defensive.
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I mean we have raced 4 other times and we split those races. It was whoever got the jump on the start and neither one of us could pull on each other.
I split 1-1 v SS (possible Z28). But, by the end of third, I would estimate a car length difference loss and a car length plus win with significant pull both ways. The launch and hook up are crucial. Too much wheel spin and it's over.

Question for you LS1 fans. I know the 50th anniversary Corvette has 350 hp. Is that true for all 2003+ vettes or just the anniversary model?
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Originally posted by sukkoi19
Come on are you being serious. Not everybody mods thier cars. Especially not as intensive as a cam intall can be. You dont hear about cammed LS1s because you are on my350Z.com, go over to LS1.com and read to your hearts content. You are the one using sarcasm to show your disbelief at things that us LS1 owners have known about for months, so dont sit there and act like you dont know why we are getting defensive.
I wouldn't call this a few bolt on's

GTP Stage 2 heads
MTI C2 cam 222/222 .561/.561 112 lsa
Jet Hot full length coated headers
custom dual exhaust 2 1/2 w/ dynomax super turbo mufflers
Moser 12 bolt w/ 33 spline axles, Eaton Posi, 4.56 gear (less than 1k)
BMR lower control arms/panhard bar/drive shaft loop
B&M shifter
Cartek clutch, adj master cyl, new throwout bearing
Autometer shift light
Weld Draglite wheels, 3 1/2 front 8" rear w/275/60 Nitto DR(new)
Hal adj front shocks/Hal drag springs
Thunder Racing MAF ends, clear MTI lid w/ k&n filter
LS1 Edit w/ cable and software
Autotap w/ cable and software
1.716 60 ft
7.52@93.75 1/8
11.68@118.30 1/4 mile

Another
Set a new best last night. 11.0 @125 with 1.62 60ft.... so close I was told not to come back until I have a bellhousing... anyone know who makes one for ls1 t56's?

Stage II mti heads, C2 cam 224/224, 75 shot tnt, most bolt ons....

Dan
99 T/A


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TR 224 cam, Mac headers w/ORY, LS6 Intake, Spec III ceramic clutch, BMR suspension, ASP Pulley, Harlan shiftlight and 2-step, Hurst Line-lock, Welds with skinnies up front and ET Drags out back, a few other bolt-ons and a Dry N20 setup. Just added Moser 12 bolt with spool and 4.11 gears, Denny's driveshaft, 30# injectors, and 255lb/hr. pump.

Best times
11.12 1/4, 6.96 1/8th
129.53 mph 1/4, 100.53 1/8th
1.48 60' (in 1/8th pass; haven't been to 1/4 mile track since I got the slicks)

Just had the 129.53 mhp trap speed, but need more traction.


I think what you consider "a few bolt ons" is a lot different then me.
Old May 18, 2003 | 05:34 AM
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What is it about internet chat forums that lead some people to act like they're five years old? And for those who will say they were only reacting to what someone else said, when was the last time you heard someone whine "but he said it first!" Probably in an elementary school. People grow up.

Please do not ruin what was a friendly, informative thread.
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Originally posted by buzzdsm
I wouldn't call this a few bolt on's...
Hey buzz, I know what you mean. You just have to remember that some folks do a better job of modding the car on the cheap than others. When I see someone with ported heads I almost cringe - these folks are paying thousands of dollars to get an extra 20 or so rwhp on a car that's already pushing well past 400rwhp. It doesn't make sense to me.

Anyone running 11's is going to have a lot of money in their car, regardless of whether or not they've got ported heads or are running N2O. I said it before - 11 second time slips destroy 10 bolt rears. You're looking at another couple grand to get a 9 inch or 12 bolt if you want to keep ABS and traction control intact.

Also, the cams those guys are running are relatively small. Those engines probably idle fine, albeit a little choppy from the tight LSA. Take the skinnies/DR's off and those could be commuters.



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